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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] meQboghnom

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Tue Sep 24 09:43:56 2013

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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:43:18 -0400
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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It appears in the paq'batlh on page 139:

nIteb chegh molor ngIq ghoqwI'
   joqwI''e' cha'bogh qeylIS
   luDel 'e' ra' molor
lujang meQboghnom 'oH
   yeqchuqchu'taHghach
   Daw' je joqwI'

One by one Molor's scouts return,
   He asks them which banner
   Kahless marches under
They reply it is the meQboghnom*
   The banner of unity
   and revolution

* Kahless's meQboghnom, a name comprised from the roots "burn" (meQ), "to
be born" (bogh) and "fast" (nom) expresses his revolutionary intentions.

qurgh



On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> De'vID:
> > Quvar (Lieven) today pointed me at the word {meQboghnom}, which appears
> > in the {paq'batlh}.  It is said to be the name of Kahless'
> > banner of unity and revolution, under which his armies marched.
>
> Hmm... "burning + fast/quickly"??  Could this refer to the line from the
> Anthem:
>
>   Our lives burn short and bright
>
> which Okrand translated as:
>
>   nI'be' yInmaj 'ach wovqu'.
>
> For those with the {paq'batlh}, what's the context?
>
> > p.s. In the (non-canon) PC game Klingon Academy, General Chang (reprised
> > by Chris Plummer) refers to the Klingon trefoil as the {tIq'ghob}, or
> "the
> > Heart of Virtue, in the ancient tongue".[]
>
> Otherwise known in standard Klingon simply as {tlhIngan wo' Degh} "the
> symbol of the Klingon Empire:
>
>   tlhIngan wo' Degh 'oH Deghvam'e'
>   This marking represents the Klingon Empire. SP1
>
> SP1:  This marking represents the Klingon Empire and has been emblazoned
> upon the hulls of countless Klingon Starships. During the aggressive
> expansion of the Klingon people from their homeworld of Kronos into space,
> this symbol grew to become as feared throughout the galaxy as the menacing
> profiles of their battlecruisers.
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It appears in the paq&#39;batlh on page 139:<div><br></div=
><div>nIteb chegh molor ngIq ghoqwI&#39;</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0joqwI&#39;&=
#39;e&#39; cha&#39;bogh qeylIS</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0luDel &#39;e&#39; ra&=
#39; molor</div><div>

lujang meQboghnom &#39;oH</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0yeqchuqchu&#39;taHghach</d=
iv><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Daw&#39; je joqwI&#39;</div><div><br></div><div>One by=
 one Molor&#39;s scouts return,=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0He asks them w=
hich banner</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Kahless marches under</div>

<div>They reply it is the meQboghnom*</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0The banner of =
unity</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0and revolution</div><div><br></div><div>* Kahl=
ess&#39;s meQboghnom, a name comprised from the roots &quot;burn&quot; (meQ=
), &quot;to be born&quot; (bogh) and &quot;fast&quot; (nom) expresses his r=
evolutionary intentions.</div>

<div><br></div><div>qurgh</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Ste=
ven Boozer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">De&#39;vID:<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; Quvar (Lieven) today pointed me at the word {meQbogh=
nom}, which appears<br>
&gt; in the {paq&#39;batlh}. =C2=A0It is said to be the name of Kahless&#39=
;<br>
&gt; banner of unity and revolution, under which his armies marched.<br>
<br>
</div>Hmm... &quot;burning + fast/quickly&quot;?? =C2=A0Could this refer to=
 the line from the Anthem:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Our lives burn short and bright<br>
<br>
which Okrand translated as:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 nI&#39;be&#39; yInmaj &#39;ach wovqu&#39;.<br>
<br>
For those with the {paq&#39;batlh}, what&#39;s the context?<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; p.s. In the (non-canon) PC game Klingon Academy, General Chang (repris=
ed<br>
&gt; by Chris Plummer) refers to the Klingon trefoil as the {tIq&#39;ghob},=
 or &quot;the<br>
</div>&gt; Heart of Virtue, in the ancient tongue&quot;.[]<br>
<br>
Otherwise known in standard Klingon simply as {tlhIngan wo&#39; Degh} &quot=
;the symbol of the Klingon Empire:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 tlhIngan wo&#39; Degh &#39;oH Deghvam&#39;e&#39;<br>
=C2=A0 This marking represents the Klingon Empire. SP1<br>
<br>
SP1: =C2=A0This marking represents the Klingon Empire and has been emblazon=
ed upon the hulls of countless Klingon Starships. During the aggressive exp=
ansion of the Klingon people from their homeworld of Kronos into space, thi=
s symbol grew to become as feared throughout the galaxy as the menacing pro=
files of their battlecruisers.<br>


<br>
<br>
--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca&#39;Non Master of the Klingons<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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