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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Story - Out of order installments
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Sat Sep 7 09:17:55 2013
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>, "tlhIngan-Hol@KLI.org"
<tlhIngan-Hol@KLI.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 13:17:13 +0000
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> I don't want a napkin that Okrand nods at to be thought of as carefully c=
onsidered grammar.
I would agree with this. However, my own thinking is that this is currently=
the closest thing we have to canon, and will therefore rely on it until it=
's been contradicted.
> lugh 'e' maqbe'.
I would say that he did; I asked him how one would say it, then he watched =
me write it, and then he said "Yeah, exactly; we agree that we disagree.". =
However, it's certainly true that the forum was hardly ideal.
> TKD does not support saying it that way.
How so?
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From: David Trimboli [david@trimboli.name]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 01:59
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Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Story - Out of order installments
I don't want a napkin that Okrand nods at to be thought of as carefully con=
sidered grammar. Do you think he even considered whether Qoch taking an obj=
ect conflicts with its TKD translation?
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From: Bellerophon, modeler<mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>
Sent: =FD9/=FD6/=FD2013 6:50 PM
To: David Trimboli<mailto:david@trimboli.name>
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Story - Out of order installments
lo'pu'be' 'ach lajpu'.
De'vID said 'Not strictly canon: but at the 2011 qepHom in Saarbr=FCcken, M=
O accepted
loghaD's {maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'} to mean "we agree to disagree".'
Doesn't that make it canon?
~'eD
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:32 PM, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name<mailto:=
david@trimboli.name>> wrote:
On 9/6/2013 9:38 AM, Andr=E9 M=FCller wrote:
As far as my notes are concerned, the only canonical example really is
{maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'.} (We agree to disagree.)
nuqDaq mu'tlheghvam lo'pu' Okrand?
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10pt;">> I don't want a napkin that Okrand nods at to be thought of as c=
arefully considered grammar.<br>
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I would agree with this. However, my own thinking is that this is currently=
the closest thing we have to canon, and will therefore rely on it until it=
's been contradicted.<br>
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> <font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">lugh 'e' maqbe'.<br>
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I would say that he did; I asked him how one would say it, then he watched =
me write it, and then he said "Yeah, exactly; we agree that we disagre=
e.". However, it's certainly true that the forum was hardly ideal.<br>
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> </span></font><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">TKD doe=
s not support saying it that way.<br>
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How so?<br>
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<div style=3D"font-size:11pt; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I don't want =
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<div>lo'pu'be' 'ach lajpu'.</div>
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<div>De'vID said 'Not strictly canon: but at the 2011 qepHom in Saarbr=FCck=
en, MO accepted</div>
<div>loghaD's {maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'} to mean "we agree to disagree&quo=
t;.'</div>
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<div>Doesn't that make it canon?</div>
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<div>~'eD</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:32 PM, David Trimboli <=
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On 9/6/2013 9:38 AM, Andr=E9 M=FCller wrote:<br>
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As far as my notes are concerned, the only canonical example really is<br>
{maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'.} (We agree to disagree.)<br>
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nuqDaq mu'tlheghvam lo'pu' Okrand?<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#88=
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