[97077] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: naj
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Sun Sep 1 03:16:18 2013
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 00:15:56 -0700
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ngaj Daj pIlmoHlaw' nab QaghmeywIj
'e' vIpIHbe' jInajtaHvIS je
maj
SughoHtaHjaj 'ej maHvam QIjjaj matlh
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Wow, I=E2=80=99m not getting any of that.=20
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short ... interesting ... inspire ... when I dreamed too, I =
didn=E2=80=99t expect my errors to plan. Fine. May you continue to argue =
and may matlh explain this us. =20
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Okay, I got the end, you meant maHvaD, not maHvam, so =E2=80=9Cto =
us.=E2=80=9D
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The need exists to express the gist of what someone said without =
quoting. Perhaps it's too long to quote, or the actual words are not =
known with certainty, but the intended meaning is clear. Klingons value =
exactness and brevity, and don't want to waste time or misquote someone. =
An indirect quote allows one to get across what was said without =
implying that it's an exact quote. A backdoor way might be something =
like {jatlh la'. qama'pu' neH la'} or for that matter {qama' DIjon 'e' =
ra' la'}.
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Right, use a non verb of saying, don=E2=80=99t try to say what they =
said, just what the effect was. =20
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HeghnIS Hoch romuluSngan =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 maq.
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qama=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 DISoplaH =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 chaw=E2=80=99.
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QIp chut =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 Har.
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paqDaj Soppu=E2=80=99 targh =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 QIj puq.
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The conversation Felix quoted seems to leave the issue open. I wouldn't =
bet too heavily against Maltz either way.
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~'eD
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My modeling blog: http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/
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Daj pIlmoHlaw' nab QaghmeywIj<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>'e' vIpIHbe' jInajtaHvIS =
je<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>maj<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>SughoHtaHjaj 'ej maHvam QIjjaj matlh<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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D'>Wow, I=E2=80=99m not getting any of that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>short ... interesting ... inspire ... when I dreamed too, I =
didn=E2=80=99t expect my errors to plan. Fine. May you continue to argue =
and may matlh explain this us.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Okay, I got the end, you meant maHvaD, not maHvam, so =E2=80=9Cto =
us.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The need exists to express the gist of what someone =
said without quoting. Perhaps it's too long to quote, or the actual =
words are not known with certainty, but the intended meaning is clear. =
Klingons value exactness and brevity, and don't want to waste time or =
misquote someone. An indirect quote allows one to get across what was =
said without implying that it's an exact quote. A backdoor way might be =
something like {jatlh la'. qama'pu' neH la'} or for that matter {qama' =
DIjon 'e' ra' la'}.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Right, use a non verb of saying, don=E2=80=99t try to say what they =
said, just what the effect was. =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>HeghnIS Hoch romuluSngan =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 =
maq.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>qama=E2=80=99pu=E2=80=99 DISoplaH =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 =
chaw=E2=80=99.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>QIp chut =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 Har.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DIT =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>paqDaj Soppu=E2=80=99 targh =E2=80=98e=E2=80=99 QIj =
puq.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DIT =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
conversation Felix quoted seems to leave the issue open. I wouldn't bet =
too heavily against Maltz either way.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>~'eD<br><br>-- <br>My modeling =
blog: <a =
href=3D"http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/</a><br>My =
other modeling blog: <a href=3D"http://bellerophon.blog.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://bellerophon.blog.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
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