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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Sunlight and Starlight
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Wed Aug 21 16:31:22 2013
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:30:43 -0400
Cc: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>wrote:
>
> "And though I had slain a thousand foes less one,
> The thousandth knife found my liver;
> The thousandth enemy said to me,
> 'Now you shall die,
> Now none shall know.'
> And the fool, looking down, believed this,
> Not seeing, above his shoulders, the naked stars,
> Each one remembering."
>
> Someone - I don't remember who (anyone?) - elegantly translated "the naked
> stars" as *{Hovmey Huv} using the otherwise unattested verb {Huv} "be
> clear, not obstructed".
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
We use that form in a Klingon Christmas Carol in a couple of places:
ramvam Hovmey Huv bIngDaq bommey Dun DIbom
ta'meylIj legh Hovmey Huv 'ej Hob!
I first used the phrase when I translated the poem on a message board back
in March 2009 (although I have no idea if anyone else used it before me):
'ej tlhoS wa'SaD loDpu' vIHoHpu',
'ach chejwIj Sam jagh wa'SaDDIch taj,
mujatlh jagh wa'SaDDIch:
<DaH bIHegh, DaH DuSov pagh>,
'ej yav leghmo' mu'meyDaj Har qoH.
'ach ghaH DungDaq reH qawchu'taH Hovmey Huv 'e' leghbe'.
qurgh
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Steven Boozer <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target=3D"_blank">sboo=
zer@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"And though I had slain a tho=
usand foes less one,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The thousandth knife found my liver;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The thousandth enemy said to me,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 'Now you shall die,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Now none shall know.'<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 And the fool, looking down, believed this,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Not seeing, above his shoulders, the naked stars,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Each one remembering."<br>
<br><div class=3D"im"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">Someone - I don&#=
39;t remember who (anyone?) - elegantly translated "the naked stars&qu=
ot; as *{Hovmey Huv} using the otherwise unattested verb {Huv} "be cle=
ar, not obstructed".</span><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"im"><br>--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br></div></blockquote><div><br>We use tha=
t form in a Klingon Christmas Carol in a couple of places:<br><div><br>ramv=
am Hovmey Huv bIngDaq bommey Dun DIbom<br><br>ta'meylIj legh Hovmey Huv=
'ej Hob!</div>
<div><br>I first used the phrase when I translated the poem on a message bo=
ard back in March 2009 (although I have no idea if anyone else used it befo=
re me):<br><br>'ej tlhoS wa'SaD loDpu' vIHoHpu',<br><div>
'ach chejwIj Sam jagh wa'SaDDIch taj,</div><div>mujatlh jagh wa'=
;SaDDIch:=C2=A0</div><div><DaH bIHegh, DaH DuSov pagh>,</div><div>=
9;ej yav leghmo' mu'meyDaj Har qoH.</div><div>'ach ghaH DungDaq=
reH qawchu'taH Hovmey Huv 'e' leghbe'.</div>
</div>=C2=A0<br>qurgh</div></div></div></div>
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