[96865] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jIr
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Thu Aug 1 11:35:29 2013
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:35:16 +0000
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> >> Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, August 01, 2013
> >>
> >> Klingon word: jIr
> >> Part of speech: verb
> >> Definition: rotate, twirl
Voragh:
>> MO said that {jIr} was intransitive at qepHom'a' 2011:
>>
>> lugh {ghur vay'}, {vay' ghurmoHlu'}, {nup vay'}, {vay'
>> nupmoHlu'} je 'e' maqbej MO. {jIr} rur {DIng} maq je 'ach
>> rurchu' 'e' maqchu'be'. Sovchu'meH matlh'e' tlhobnISlaw'.
>> [De'vID, 3/22/12]
>>
>> Cf. {jIrmoH} "twirl bat'leth, cause bat'leth to rotate":
>>
>> KGT 60: There is an extensive vocabulary for the moves =
>> associated with bat'leth use. To twirl or rotate the =
>> bat'leth is {jIrmoH} and to toss it from one hand to the
>> other (the same word is used whether left to right or
>> right to left) is {baQ}.
quljIb:
> {jIr} is used in contexts other than twirling bat'leths, yes? For
> example, I can say {jIr mI'wI'}, "The dancer twirls/spins," (say in the
> context of ballet) and be understood, qar'a'?
=
I would think so. Only {jIrmoH} is specifically associated with the bat'le=
th in the KGT definition, though I can't imagine why you couldn't {jIrmoH} =
something else. =
AFAIK we have no examples of {jIr} in a sentence. Ditto for {Ding} "spin",=
but I do have this comment by Philip Newton (3/22/2012):
Someone (De'vID jonpIn?) asked Marc Okrand about {Ding} at
the {qepHom wa'maHDIch} (2011) in Saarbr=FCcken. I seem to
recall that he agreed that it was intransitive (the spinning
thing {Ding}'s, and the one who spins it {DIngmoH}'s it),
but am not sure whether the answer might not have been the
characteristical noncommittal instead.
Any examples from the paq'batlh?
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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