[96833] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {qoSta'} clarified
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Tue Jul 30 16:25:16 2013
From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:24:58 +1000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmMsGze+Aco__-M1nh=Foyf71cL0NYT57SxJrsKqZDNb-w@mail.gmail.com>
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ghItlhpu' De'vID=2C jatlh:
> ...{'aplo'} {vey} je DIyajchu'meH 'eb Dajonpu''a' je?
jang ghunchu'wI'=2C jatlh:
> mu'meyvam vIyaj jIH. bIHmo' DumISmoH nuq?
jang je De'vID=2C jatlh:
> chay' rurchuq 'aplo' ngaSwI' je? chay' pIm? ngaSwI' Segh 'oHlaw'
> 'aplo''e'.
I don't think that {'aplo'} is really a subset of {ngaSwI'}. Like {qoSta'}=
=2C the impression I have of {'aplo'} is that it's more about form than fun=
ction. I have it glossed in my head as "rectangular prism"=2C or more simpl=
y "box". The contents of {'ul 'aplo'mey} "batteries" and {wab qoSta' 'aplo'=
} "cassette" have nothing in common=2C so I doubt very much that that's the=
relevant feature linking them together.
ghunchu'wI'=2C Marc Okrand wIjatlhtaHvIS mu' {'aplo'} wIqelpu' SoH jIH je. =
bopbogh vay''e' jatlhpu''a' Marc? jIqawlaHchu'be'.
> ngaSwI' Segh 'oHlaw' je vey'e'.
Similarly=2C I doubt that {vey} is a subset of {ngaSwI'}. {vey} is more a "=
set"=2C a conglomeration of objects that has a specific and finite boundary=
and a common feature or purpose relating them. A deck of cards=2C for inst=
ance=2C is a {vey} ({wa' tlhIngan QaS vey} "one pack of Klingon forces"=2C =
from MKE). So is the set of paraphernalia included in a board game ({veymey=
puS neH chenmoHlu'pu'} "Limited Edition" - literally "only a few sets has =
[sic] been made").
QeS
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>ghItlhpu' De'vID=2C jatlh:<br><d=
iv>>=3B ...{'aplo'} {vey} je DIyajchu'meH 'eb Dajonpu''a' je?<br><br>jang=
ghunchu'wI'=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B mu'meyvam vIyaj jIH. bIHmo' DumISmoH nuq?<=
br><br>jang je De'vID=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B chay' rurchuq 'aplo' ngaSwI' je? =
chay' pIm? ngaSwI' Segh 'oHlaw'<br>>=3B 'aplo''e'.<br><br>I don't think t=
hat {'aplo'} is really a subset of {ngaSwI'}. Like {qoSta'}=2C the impressi=
on I have of {'aplo'} is that it's more about form than function. I have it=
glossed in my head as "rectangular prism"=2C or more simply "box". The con=
tents of {'ul 'aplo'mey} "batteries" and {wab qoSta' 'aplo'} "cassette" hav=
e nothing in common=2C so I doubt very much that that's the relevant featur=
e linking them together.<br><br>ghunchu'wI'=2C Marc Okrand wIjatlhtaHvIS mu=
' {'aplo'} wIqelpu' SoH jIH je. bopbogh vay''e' jatlhpu''a' Marc? jIqawlaHc=
hu'be'.<br><br>>=3B ngaSwI' Segh 'oHlaw' je vey'e'.<br><br>Similarly=2C I=
doubt that {vey} is a subset of {ngaSwI'}. {vey} is more a "set"=2C a cong=
lomeration of objects that has a specific and finite boundary and a common =
feature or purpose relating them. A deck of cards=2C for instance=2C is a {=
vey} ({wa' tlhIngan QaS vey} "one pack of Klingon forces"=2C from MKE). So =
is the set of paraphernalia included in a board game ({veymey puS neH chenm=
oHlu'pu'} "Limited Edition" - literally "only a few sets has [sic] been mad=
e").<br><br>QeS<br></div> </div></body>
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