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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Tantalizingly ... puberty
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Mon Jul 29 12:44:35 2013
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:44:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>, Alex Greene <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
Klingon Mailing List <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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The Memory Alpha site lists the word Jak'tahla in its database, thus:-=0A=
=0AJak'tahla is a Klingon word that roughly translates into the Klingon ver=
sion of puberty that affects Klingons during their teenage years. It is cha=
racterized by accelerated hair growth, mood swings, increased aggressive te=
ndencies, the appearance of gorches on the Klingon's face, among other thin=
gs. =0AJean-Luc Picard quipped that the translation of puberty "hardly does=
it justice". (Star Trek: Insurrection) =0AIn 2375, the metaphasic radiatio=
n from the Ba'ku planet's ring's caused Lieutenant Commander Worf to re-ent=
er jak'tahla. (Star Trek: Insurrection) =0APlease don't force me to relive =
memories of watching Star Trek: Insurrection again.=0A=0AFrom: Robyn Stewar=
t <robyn@flyingstart.ca>=0A=0ATo: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhIngan-Hol@k=
li.org> =0A>Sent: Monday, 29 July 2013, 16:21=0A>Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Ta=
ntalizingly ... puberty=0A> =0A>=0A>Marc told a story in which he was alert=
ed that a producer [may not have been=0A>the exact title] was going to call=
him looking for a Klingon word for=0A>"puberty". He prepared a few alterna=
tives, as he usually does in such cases.=0A>When the phone call came the qu=
estion was "Is there a Klingon word for=0A>puberty."=0A>=0A>Marc answered, =
"No...." preparing to then provide his suggestions, but the=0A>producer cut=
him off,=0A>=0A>"Good, because I made one up." Marc said that fortunately =
the producer's=0A>word was consistent with Klingon phonology, so in my opin=
ion Marc has=0A>accepted that word into canon. He doesn't himself remember =
what it is, but=0A>it is in one of the TNG movies, the one where they get y=
ounger. He explains=0A>Worf calling a pimple a "gortch" by saying that Klin=
gons are so embarrassed=0A>by such things that=A0 they name them in an alie=
n language, to distance=0A>themselves. Likewise Klingons appear to prefer n=
aming children in other=0A>languages, which is why character names are not =
consistent with ta' Hol.=0A>=0A>- Qov=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>__________________=
_____________________________=0A>Tlhingan-hol mailing list=0A>Tlhingan-hol@=
stodi.digitalkingdom.org=0A>http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinf=
o/tlhingan-hol=0A>=0A>=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>The Memory Alpha =
site lists the word </span><span> <i><a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/=
wiki/Jak%27tahla" title=3D"Jak'tahla">Jak'tahla</a></i> in its database, th=
us:-</span></div><br><div><i><b>Jak'tahla</b></i> is a <a href=3D"http://en=
.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingonese" title=3D"Klingonese">Klingon word</a> th=
at roughly translates into the <a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/K=
lingon" title=3D"Klingon">Klingon</a> version of <a href=3D"http://en.memor=
y-alpha.org/wiki/Puberty" title=3D"Puberty">puberty</a> that affects Klingo=
ns during their teenage years. It is characterized by accelerated <a href=
=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hair" title=3D"Hair">hair</a> growth, m=
ood swings, increased aggressive tendencies, the appearance of <a href=3D"h=
ttp://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gorch" title=3D"Gorch">gorches</a> on the Kl=
ingon's face, among
other things.=0A</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; =
font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; =
font-style: italic;"><a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Pi=
card" title=3D"Jean-Luc Picard">Jean-Luc Picard</a> quipped that the transl=
ation of <a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Puberty" title=3D"Puber=
ty">puberty</a> "hardly does it justice". (<i><a href=3D"http://en.memory-a=
lpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Insurrection" title=3D"Star Trek: Insurrection"><s=
pan style=3D"cursor: help;" title=3D"Star Trek: Insurrection">Star Trek: In=
surrection</span></a></i>)=0A</div><div>In <a href=3D"http://en.memory-alph=
a.org/wiki/2375" title=3D"2375">2375</a>, the <a href=3D"http://en.memory-a=
lpha.org/wiki/Metaphasic_radiation" title=3D"Metaphasic radiation">metaphas=
ic radiation</a> from the <a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ba%27k=
u_%28planet%29" title=3D"Ba'ku (planet)">Ba'ku planet</a>'s ring's caused <=
a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Commander" title=3D"Li=
eutenant Commander" class=3D"mw-redirect">Lieutenant Commander</a> <a href=
=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Worf" title=3D"Worf">Worf</a> to re-ent=
er <i>jak'tahla</i>. (<i><a href=3D"http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Tr=
ek:_Insurrection" title=3D"Star Trek: Insurrection"><span style=3D"cursor: =
help;" title=3D"Star Trek: Insurrection">Star Trek: Insurrection</span></a>=
</i>)=0A</div><br>Please don't force me to relive memories of watching <spa=
n style=3D"font-style: italic;">Star Trek: Insurrection</span> again.<br><b=
r><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Robyn Stewart <r=
obyn@flyingstart.ca><br><div><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid=
rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><=
div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt=
;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font=
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yle=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlh=
Ingan-Hol@kli.org> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</spa=
n></b> Monday, 29 July 2013, 16:21<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;=
">Subject:</span></b> [Tlhingan-hol] Tantalizingly ... puberty<br> </font> =
</div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>Marc told a story in which he was=
alerted that a producer
[may not have been<br>the exact title] was going to call him looking for a=
Klingon word for<br>"puberty". He prepared a few alternatives, as he usual=
ly does in such cases.<br>When the phone call came the question was "Is the=
re a Klingon word for<br>puberty."<br><br>Marc answered, "No...." preparing=
to then provide his suggestions, but the<br>producer cut him off,<br><br>"=
Good, because I made one up." Marc said that fortunately the producer's<br>=
word was consistent with Klingon phonology, so in my opinion Marc has<br>ac=
cepted that word into canon. He doesn't himself remember what it is, but<br=
>it is in one of the TNG movies, the one where they get younger. He explain=
s<br>Worf calling a pimple a "gortch" by saying that Klingons are so embarr=
assed<br>by such things that they name them in an alien language, to =
distance<br>themselves. Likewise Klingons appear to prefer naming children =
in other<br>languages, which is why character names are not
consistent with ta' Hol.<br><br>- Qov<br><br><br><br><br>_________________=
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