[96699] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Mangling Klingon to make it sortable
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Sat Jul 13 08:47:08 2013
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 08:46:35 -0400
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
In-Reply-To: <CAFK8js3pXOLEasqSAvRSP=p8OzK32UcZXV32gdfsRVTKH=0Oyw@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
On 7/12/2013 4:36 PM, Alan Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Krenath <krenath@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just a quick observation, but the alphabetical order we use isn't
>> necessarily "proper Klingon alphabetical order" but rather derived
>> from English/Romanized alphabetical order since we've actually
>> never been told what order Klingons chose for their pIqaD
>> characters...
>
>
> Page 77 of The Klingon Dictionary:
>
> "Klingon alphabetical order is as follows:
>
> a, b, ch, D, e, gh, H, I, j, l, m, n, ng, o, p, q, Q, r, S, t, tlh,
> u, v, w, y, '
>
> Note that ch, g, ng, and tlh are considered separate letters. Thus
> the syllable no would precede the syllable nga in the Klingon list."
>
> I accept TKD as authoritative.
Perhaps you misunderstand Krenath's point. Since we now know that =
Klingons have names for these sounds, we know they have an alphabet. The =
question he raises is what order Klingons arrange that alphabet in.
There is no way that Klingons just happened to arrange their alphabet in =
the same order that we do. If I remember my probability correctly, =
that's one chance in 403 septillion, assuming the above characters are =
the entirety of the alphabet.
When TKD says "Klingon alphabetical order," it really means the order of =
romanized letters adopted by the research group funded by the Federation =
Research Council. This is brought up on p. 77 because readers need to =
know how to find Klingon words in the Klingon=96English side of the =
dictionary.
-- =
SuStel
http://www.trimboli.name/
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