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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "up to" or "as many as"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Fri Jul 12 09:15:58 2013
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:15:24 -0400
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
In-Reply-To: <F52986192E9FE346B0B7EF3D6F98E877122A83A3@EXDB3.ug.kth.se>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
On 7/12/2013 7:37 AM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
> *From:* De'vID [de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]
>
>> Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before
>> breakfast.
>>
>> toH, rut nIQ vISoppa' jav DuHbe'bogh ghu' vIHarpu'.
>>
>> What's a good way to express the concept "as many as", "up to"?
>
> My "feel" for the Klingon language is that there is probably sort of
> set phrase for this, similar to {X Q law' Y Q puS}, but that's
> impossible to guess.
> I think your sentence rather gets the idea across; the fact that you
> sometimes think of six such things sort of implies that you'd also
> sometimes think of five or four, unless there's some reason to think
> you'd do it in bunches of six.
>
> You can make a longer phrase explaining {not DuHbe'wI' vIHarbogh law'
> law' jav DuHbe'wI' law' puS}, or use {'aqroS}, but I suspect that would
> severely change the focus of your statement, though; your point is that
> the impossible things you believe are surprisingly many, not that they
> are few.
Whenever this line is paraphrased, the "as many as" is always left out
anyway.
>> toH, rut nIQ vISoppa' jav DuHbe'bogh ghu' vIHarpu'.
>
> I think you probably want the {rut} to modify {vIHarpu'} rather than
> {vISoppa'}, by comparison with {bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'.}.
Also get rid of the {toH}. It is not a general expletive; it means
discovery: "Aha!"
> Also, {jav} after {DuHbe'bogh}.
No, I wouldn't do that. {DuHbe'bogh ghu'} is a more fundamental idea
than {jav ghu'} in this statement.
rut jav DuHbe'bogh qech vIHarpu' nIQ vISoppa'.
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