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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {-Ha'} with {-Qo'}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Sat Jul 6 11:47:38 2013

Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 16:46:57 +0100 (BST)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Alex Greene <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
 Klingon Mailing List <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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jIQochbe'chu'.=0A=0AThe only thing you cannot get away with, from my read o=
f my trusty TKD, is using -be' in an imperative. Otherwise, it is as my lea=
rned peers say.=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Roha=
n Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>=0A>To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol=
@kli.org> =0A>Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013, 13:05=0A>Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-=
hol] {-Ha'} with {-Qo'}=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>ghItlhpu' Quvar, jatlh:=0A>> I=
'm not sure if my previous message came through, but I like to point at =0A=
>=0A>> the examples in chapter 4.3 which use two Type Rover suffixes on one=
 verb:=0A>=0A>> pIHoHvIpbe'qu'=0A>> pIHoHvIpqu'be'=0A>> pIHoHqu'vIpbe'=0A>=
=0A>Ahhh, now I see what De'vID's confusion was (about the TKD general proh=
ibition on multiple affixes of the same class, I guess).=0A>=0A>Yes, as Quv=
ar ably points out, multiple rovers on the same verb shouldn't be a problem=
. I see this as simply being because the rovers are only a "class" in the s=
ame way as the chuvmey are a "class", that is, they're defined only by thei=
r lack of membership in any other group.=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">jIQochbe'chu'.<br><br>The on=
ly thing you cannot get away with, from my read of my trusty TKD, is using =
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">-be'</span> in an imperative. Otherwise, =
it is as my learned peers say.<br><br> <div><blockquote style=3D"border-lef=
t: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-l=
eft: 5px;">  <div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; f=
ont-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, tim=
es, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=
=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b=
> Rohan Fenwick &lt;qeslagh@hotmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">To:</span></b> "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" &lt;tlhingan-hol@kli.org&g=
t; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 6 =
July 2013,
 13:05<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [T=
lhingan-hol] {-Ha'} with {-Qo'}<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_cont=
ainer"><br><div id=3D"yiv5514625542">=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv5514625542 .yi=
v5514625542hmmessage P=0A{=0Amargin:0px;padding:0px;}=0A#yiv5514625542 body=
.yiv5514625542hmmessage=0A{=0Afont-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}=0A--></s=
tyle>=0A<div><div dir=3D"ltr">ghItlhpu' Quvar, jatlh:<br>&gt; I'm not sure =
if my previous message came through, but I like to point at <br><div>&gt; t=
he examples in chapter 4.3 which use two Type Rover suffixes on one verb:<b=
r><br>&gt; pIHoHvIpbe'qu'<br>&gt; pIHoHvIpqu'be'<br>&gt; pIHoHqu'vIpbe'<br>=
<br>Ahhh, now I see what De'vID's confusion was (about the TKD general proh=
ibition on multiple affixes of the same class, I guess).<br><br>Yes, as Quv=
ar ably points out, multiple rovers on the same verb shouldn't be a problem=
. I see this as simply being because the rovers are only a "class" in the s=
ame way as the chuvmey are a "class", that is, they're defined only by thei=
r lack of membership in any other group.<br></div></div></div></div></div> =
</div> </div> </blockquote>  </div></div></body></html>
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