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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Iron Man vs. Man of Steel
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Sun Jun 9 02:46:19 2013
From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 16:46:03 +1000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmMPVDJFENErHv7afj_MkEzpE2Tq3tu3V-3JW4x3-EZMAw@mail.gmail.com>
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ghItlhpu' De'vID=2C jatlh:
> While translating this summer's movie titles into Klingon=2C I ran into t=
he> problem of having to distinguish between these two superhero films. =0A=
> Suggestions?
As I said in response to your recent request for "Kindness is Magic"=2C you=
must consider any appropriate context. It can be tempting to go for the li=
teral route when phrases or sentences are simple=2C but this is a textbook =
example of why literal translation should be avoided. As I heard it put onc=
e: "Words don't have translations=3B utterances do."
In the case of "Iron Man"=2C since it's a literal suit of armour that's bei=
ng referred to by the title=2C it's this one that I'd choose to render as {=
baS loD}.
In the case of "Man of Steel"=2C Superman himself is not made of steel (quS=
wIjDaq jIba')=3B it's a metaphor. Why not borrow a similar one from Klingon=
? We have the simile {HoSghaj=3B mupwI' rur} "as powerful as a hammer" from=
KGT (p.129)=2C so what about {mupwI' loD} or {mupwI' rurbogh loD}?
QeS
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>ghItlhpu' De'vID=2C jatlh:<br><d=
iv><p dir=3D"ltr">>=3B While translating this summer's movie titles into =
Klingon=2C I ran into the</p><p dir=3D"ltr">>=3B problem of having to dis=
tinguish between these two superhero films. </p>=0A=
<p dir=3D"ltr">>=3B Suggestions?</p><br>As I said in response to your rec=
ent request for "Kindness is Magic"=2C you must consider any appropriate co=
ntext. It can be tempting to go for the literal route when phrases or sente=
nces are simple=2C but this is a textbook example of why literal translatio=
n should be avoided. As I heard it put once: "Words don't have translations=
=3B utterances do."<br><br>In the case of "Iron Man"=2C since it's a litera=
l suit of armour that's being referred to by the title=2C it's this one tha=
t I'd choose to render as {baS loD}.<br><br>In the case of "Man of Steel"=
=2C Superman himself is not made of steel (quSwIjDaq jIba')=3B it's a metap=
hor. Why not borrow a similar one from Klingon? We have the simile {HoSghaj=
=3B mupwI' rur} "as powerful as a hammer" from KGT (p.129)=2C so what about=
{mupwI' loD} or {mupwI' rurbogh loD}?<br><br>QeS<br></div> </di=
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