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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "Kindness is Magic"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Fri Jun 7 13:19:14 2013
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 18:17:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Alex Greene <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>,
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Both are exceedingly hard words to translate conceptually.=0A=0A{qa' HoS gh=
ajlu'ghach 'oH vaQHa'lu'ghach'e'} perhaps?=0A=0AIf it grates, it's the conc=
epts that are grating, not the grammar. "Kindness" is not generally conside=
red a very noble Klingon trait.=0A=0AAt least I didn't respond with the phr=
ase {tera'ngan Dap} because that would have insulted him.=0A=0A=0ASubject: =
[Tlhingan-hol] "Kindness is Magic"=0A =0A=0A>How would you translate this p=
hrase, from Ricky Gervais' show "Derek"?=0A>=0A>I ask because Gervais sent =
out a tweet requesting the phrase in=0A>different languages=0A>(https://twi=
tter.com/rickygervais/status/342752887190999040) and=0A>already there are s=
everal people claiming to offer a "Klingon"=0A>translation, none of them an=
y good.=0A>=0A>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Both are exceedin=
gly hard words to translate conceptually.</span></div><div style=3D"color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D=
"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times=
,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">{qa' HoS ghajlu=
'ghach 'oH vaQHa'lu'ghach'e'} perhaps?</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background=
-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rg=
b(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">If it grates, it's the co=
ncepts that are grating, not the grammar. "Kindness" is not generally
considered a very noble Klingon trait.</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0,=
0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; backgroun=
d-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; b=
ackground-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">At least I didn't respon=
d with the phrase {tera'ngan Dap} because that would have insulted him.<br>=
<span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font=
-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font=
-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-size: 16px; font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; background-col=
or: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span></span><font face=3D"Arial" siz=
e=3D"2"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Tlhingan=
-hol] "Kindness is Magic"<br> </font> </div><div><blockquote style=3D"borde=
r-left:
2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-lef=
t: 5px;"><div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-=
size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, s=
erif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>How would you t=
ranslate this phrase, from Ricky Gervais' show "Derek"?<br><br>I ask becaus=
e Gervais sent out a tweet requesting the phrase in<br>different languages<=
br>(<a href=3D"https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/342752887190999040" =
target=3D"_blank">https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/34275288719099904=
0</a>) and<br>already there are several people claiming to offer a "Klingon=
"<br>translation, none of them any good.<br><br></div> </div> </div> </bloc=
kquote> </div></div></body></html>
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