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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Cable, Thread, Wire, Web
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Jun 3 10:16:30 2013
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:16:16 +0000
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{mIr} "chain"
{tlhegh} "line, rope
{SIrgh} "string, thread, filament"
KGT 76: Each string is a {SIrgh}, a word also used for any thread or filam=
ent. A {SIrgh} of the finest quality is made from a material secreted by in=
sects, similar to the silk produced by silkworms.
*{SIrghpat [Qatlh]} "[complex, (intricate?)] cobweb"?? To be clear you can=
always preface it with {ghew} "bug, insect".
As for metals, the late Glen Proechel used *{baS qIj} for iron ("black meta=
l"), *{baS Doq} for copper ("red metal"), and *{baS SuD} for brass ("yellow=
/green metal").
GILGAMESH used *{baS wagh} for gold, silver, etc. ("precious metal"). I im=
agine this would include latinum.
Other options: *{baS chIS} "white metal", *{baS boch} "shiny metal", *{baS =
wov} "light/bright metal", etc.
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Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
From: Fiat Knox [mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk]
SIrgh gets the job done.
But "web" as in "cobweb," I still need. And does anyone have a translation =
for "silver?"
For that matter, how about "gold" and "copper?" "baS SuD" and "baS Doq" res=
pectively perhaps?
________________________________
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se<mailto:felixm@kth.se>>
I wonder if <SIrgh> might not be more appropriate. <'ul QaymeH SIrgh> for a=
power wire, maybe <jabbI'ID SIrgh> for data lines...
________________________________________
From: Fiat Knox [fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>]
Wondering about how to describe the word "wire" into Klingon, I found mysel=
f thinking *baS tlhegh* /metal line/.
The word tlhegh naturally led to *tlhegh'a'* for /cable, hawser,/ *baS tlhe=
gh'a'* for /metal cable, hawser/ and *tlheghHom* for /thread, strand./
But then I ran up against /web./
Perhaps *tlheghHom jonwI'* could be what I'm looking for?
Further: has anyone translated "silver?" I want to use the phrase "silver c=
ord."
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ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">{mIr} &nb=
sp; “chai=
n”<br>
{tlhegh} ̶=
0;line, rope <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">{SIrgh} &=
nbsp; “string, thread, fila=
ment”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">KGT 76: Ea=
ch string is a {<b>SIrgh}</b>, a word also used for any thread or filament.=
A {<b>SIrgh}</b> of the finest quality is made from a material secreted by=
insects, similar to the silk produced by
silkworms. <br>
<br>
*{SIrghpat [Qatlh]} “[complex, (intricate?)] cobweb”?? To=
be clear you can always preface it with {ghew} “bug, insect”.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As for metals, the late Gle=
n Proechel used *{baS qIj} for iron ("black metal"), *{baS Doq} f=
or copper ("red metal"), and *{baS SuD} for brass ("yellow/g=
reen metal").
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">GILGAMESH used *{baS wagh} =
for gold, silver, etc. (“precious metal”). I imagine this=
would include latinum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Other options: *{baS chIS} =
“white metal”, *{baS boch} “shiny metal”, *{baS wov=
} “light/bright metal”, etc.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Ca'Non Master of the Klingo=
ns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Fiat Kno=
x [mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk]
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Garamond","serif";color:black">SIrgh gets the job do=
ne.<br>
But "web" as in "cobweb," I still need. And does anyone=
have a translation for "silver?"<br>
For that matter, how about "gold" and "copper?" "b=
aS SuD" and "baS Doq" respectively perhaps?<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Garamond","serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></sp=
an></p>
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>From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&qu=
ot;,"sans-serif";color:black"> Felix Malmenbeck <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:felixm@kth.se">felixm@kth.se</a>><br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><spa=
n style=3D"color:black">I wonder if «SIrgh» might not be more a=
ppropriate. «'ul QaymeH SIrgh» for a power wire, maybe «j=
abbI'ID SIrgh» for data lines...<br>
<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Fiat Knox [<a href=3D"mailto:fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk">fiat_knox@yahoo.c=
o.uk</a>]<br>
<br>
Wondering about how to describe the word "wire" into Klingon, I f=
ound myself thinking *baS tlhegh* /metal line/.<br>
<br>
The word tlhegh naturally led to *tlhegh'a'* for /cable, hawser,/ *baS tlhe=
gh'a'* for /metal cable, hawser/ and *tlheghHom* for /thread, strand./<br>
<br>
But then I ran up against /web./<br>
<br>
Perhaps *tlheghHom jonwI'* could be what I'm looking for?<br>
<br>
Further: has anyone translated "silver?" I want to use the phrase=
"silver cord."<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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