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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Thu May 30 19:24:11 2013

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From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:23:42 -0600
To: nIqolay q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Cc: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On 2013-05-30, at 17:14, nIqolay q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Marc Okrand has mentioned {poH tuj}; it'd probably be safe to call winter {poH bIr}.
>> ...although I believe in GoT, winter is really more of a {bov bIr}.
> 
> Would "chol" work in this sentence? I'm always uncertain of which
> English idiomatic uses are okay in Klingon; can "chol" have a temporal
> meaning? chol poH bIr is certainly pithy, though.

I don't like spatial terms for time in Klingon. How about: tugh bIrchoH

> And the mottos (tuq mu'mey) from other major houses in the series,
> because mottos are fun to do:
> House Arryn: "As High As Honor." jen; batlh rur
> House Baratheon: "Ours is the Fury." QeH wIghaj maH'e'
> House Greyjoy: "We Do Not Sow." mapochbe'
> House Lannister: "Hear Me Roar!" jIjachqu' 'e' HIQoy

jIjachqu'. HIQoy. OR jIjachqu' 'e' yIQoy.  

The object 'e' takes yI- even though the action involved jIH. 

> House Martell: "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" DItormoHbe'lu',
> DISIHbe'lu', DIghorbe'lu'

wI- is the correct prefix for these. Use the prefix for a third person singular object. 

> House Tully: "Family, Duty, Honor." qorDu', Qu', batlh
> House Tyrell: "Growing Strong." maHoSchoHtaH
> House Targaryen: "Fire and Blood." qul 'Iw je
> 
>>> *Since we know "Live long and prosper" was translated as {yIn nI' yISIQ 'ej
>>> yIchep} by MO (for Radio Times), maybe we should substitute a suitable
>>> catchphrase from Game of Thrones for this one. I'm not familiar enough with
>>> that show to know what that would be, but surely one of you is.
>> 
>> {qoDwIjDaq lIghtaH joH!} = "A Lord rides inside me!"

I would expect jIH qoD as with jIH tlhop and jIH retlh. 

> "A dragon is not a slave." toy'wI''a' 'oHbe'qu' lung

... lung'e'. Unless they're Morskan. 

> "A Lannister always pays his debts." welDI' lannISter, reH DIl
> "Valar morghulis (All men must die)" HeghnIS Hoch loDmey
> "Valar dohaeris (All men must serve)" toy'nIS Hoch loDmey

Omit the optional (and in this case incorrect) plural suffix for a pithier statement. 

- Qov

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