[96211] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] new Klingon [SPOILER]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Sat May 11 17:11:00 2013
Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 22:10:43 +0100 (BST)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
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majQa'. Thanks for reporting this.=0A=0A=0AWARNING: possible spoilers=0A>=
=0A>I saw the movie last night, and have a partial transcript taken in the=
=0A>theatre of most of the Klingon dialogue, but I will wait 30 days from=
=0A>the general US release to discuss the actual words.=0A>=0A>However, I h=
ave some META-information about the Klingon dialogue in=0A>the movie, namel=
y, information about the extent of MO's involvement in=0A>the project, and =
who else was involved.=0A>=0A>So, WARNING again: If you do not want to know=
anything at all about=0A>the Klingon spoken in the movie and how it came a=
bout, you shouldn't=0A>be reading this thread.=0A>=0A>With that said, if yo=
u've watched the promo interviews with Zoe=0A>Saldana, you'd have known tha=
t she was coached by "a linguist from San=0A>Francisco". And if you've wait=
ed until the closing credits of the=0A>movie, you will see that the languag=
e consultant listed was not Marc=0A>Okrand. It is, however, a linguist base=
d in San Francisco. I contacted=0A>him, and he confirmed to me that he was =
involved in the project, but=0A>noted that he can't say very much as he is =
under agreement, and also=0A>he hasn't seen the finished movie and so doesn=
't actually know what=0A>the final result is. He was, however, able to conf=
irm the following:=0A>- he was the one who coached Zoe Saldana and the othe=
r Klingon speakers=0A>- Marc Okrand created every word of the scripted dial=
ogue, but it is=0A>possible that the dialogue was altered in filming or pos=
tproduction=0A>- if the tlhIngan Hol dialogue is released, it will be throu=
gh Marc Okrand=0A>=0A>So for those of you wondering about the extent of Mar=
c Okrand's=0A>involvement in this movie, there you go.=0A>=0A>pItlh.=0A>=0A=
>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">majQa'. Thanks for reporting=
this.<br><br><div><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, =
255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style=3D"=
font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=
=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"=
><div class=3D"y_msg_container">WARNING: possible spoilers<br><br>I saw the=
movie last night, and have a partial transcript taken in the<br>theatre of=
most of the Klingon dialogue, but I will wait 30 days from<br>the general =
US release to discuss the actual words.<br><br>However, I have some META-in=
formation about the Klingon dialogue in<br>the movie, namely, information a=
bout the extent of MO's involvement in<br>the project, and who else was inv=
olved.<br><br>So, WARNING again: If you do not want to know anything at all
about<br>the Klingon spoken in the movie and how it came about, you should=
n't<br>be reading this thread.<br><br>With that said, if you've watched the=
promo interviews with Zoe<br>Saldana, you'd have known that she was coache=
d by "a linguist from San<br>Francisco". And if you've waited until the clo=
sing credits of the<br>movie, you will see that the language consultant lis=
ted was not Marc<br>Okrand. It is, however, a linguist based in San Francis=
co. I contacted<br>him, and he confirmed to me that he was involved in the =
project, but<br>noted that he can't say very much as he is under agreement,=
and also<br>he hasn't seen the finished movie and so doesn't actually know=
what<br>the final result is. He was, however, able to confirm the followin=
g:<br>- he was the one who coached Zoe Saldana and the other Klingon speake=
rs<br>- Marc Okrand created every word of the scripted dialogue, but it is<=
br>possible that the dialogue was altered in filming or
postproduction<br>- if the tlhIngan Hol dialogue is released, it will be t=
hrough Marc Okrand<br><br>So for those of you wondering about the extent of=
Marc Okrand's<br>involvement in this movie, there you go.<br><br>pItlh.<br=
><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></div></body></html>
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