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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Stonewall Poster Goes Klingon ...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brent Kesler)
Fri May 3 16:58:43 2013
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Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 16:58:17 -0400
From: Brent Kesler <brent.of.all.people@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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I scratched my head at {yIqImHa'}.
First, grammar. Wouldn't {-Qo'} be the usual negative marker for commands?
However, {-Ha'} is more than just another negative, so I have no problem
using it in commands; others more skilled than me might disagree.
Second, semantics. Whether {-Ha'} or {-Qo'} is used, to me {yIqIm-Ha'/Qo'}
sounds like "Pay no attention to this fact". I think the point of the
poster is to bring your attention to this fact and demand that you accept
it. For that, I'd say {yIlajqu'}. On the other hand, maybe it's a brusk
"Mind your own business", which is very Klingon. YMMV--I'd like to hear
what others think.
Finally, the I's in {yIqImHa'} should technically be capital, but since
there's no dot, I won't quibble over it.
bI'reng
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I learned of this link to Stonewall's "Some People Are Gay. Get Over It"
> campaign - which has attempted a translation of their slogan into Klingon
> ...
>
> Feature: http://www.stonewall.org.uk/media/current_releases/8746.asp
>
> Poster on Facebook:
> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923188_10151599468025399_502118005_n.jpg
>
> Have fun tearing into their translation effort.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I scratched my head at {yIqImHa'}.<div><br></div><div =
style>First, grammar. Wouldn't {-Qo'} be the usual negative marker =
for commands? However, {-Ha'} is more than just another negative, so I =
have no problem using it in commands; others more skilled than me might dis=
agree.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Second, semantics. Whether {-Ha'} or {-=
Qo'} is used, to me {yIqIm-Ha'/Qo'} sounds like "Pay no at=
tention to this fact". I think the point of the poster is to bring you=
r attention to this fact and demand that you accept it. For that, I'd s=
ay {yIlajqu'}. On the other hand, maybe it's a brusk "Mind you=
r own business", which is very Klingon. YMMV--I'd like to hear wha=
t others think.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Finally, the I's in {yIqImHa'} shou=
ld technically be capital, but since there's no dot, I won't quibbl=
e over it.</div><div style><br></div><div style>bI'reng</div></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3=
, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Fiat Knox <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:fiat_k=
nox@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:garamond,new york,times,serif"><div><span>I learned of this link to Stone=
wall's "Some People Are Gay. Get Over It" campaign - which ha=
s attempted a translation of their slogan into Klingon ...</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent=
;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif"><br><span></span></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-fa=
mily:garamond,new york,times,serif">
<span>Feature:</span> <span><a href=3D"http://www.stonewall.org.uk/media/cu=
rrent_releases/8746.asp" target=3D"_blank">http://www.stonewall.org.uk/medi=
a/current_releases/8746.asp</a></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal=
;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,new york,=
times,serif">
<br><span></span></div><div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:16px;backg=
round-color:transparent;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif"><span>Po=
ster on Facebook: <a href=3D"https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos=
-ak-prn1/923188_10151599468025399_502118005_n.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/923188_10151599468025399_5=
02118005_n.jpg</a></span></div>
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent=
;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif"><br><span></span></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-fa=
mily:garamond,new york,times,serif">
<span>Have fun tearing into their translation effort.</span></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-fam=
ily:garamond,new york,times,serif"><span><br></span></div></div></div><br>
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