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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 17. ghojwI'pu'lI' tISaH
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Apr 17 10:45:10 2013
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:44:49 +0000
In-Reply-To: <BAY166-W69763E650E17E7626CDFAAACE0@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
loghaD:
>> Combining these examples, it seems to me that perhaps the object
>> of {toS} is the thing which one climbs.
QeS:
> Indeed - as you show, paq'raD 14:4 supports this explicitly: []
> {...chalqach toS} "he climbs the tower".
>> One's starting point is marked with -vo', and one's destination with -Daq.
>
> Again, an entirely reasonable conclusion.
>
>> Not sure if a person who climbs cliffs for sport with no real
>> destination would be said to {qoj toS} or {qojDaq toS}, though.
> Well, I suppose there is still a destination as often as not - the top of
> the cliff (or, for abseilers, the bottom), so I reckon either {qoj toS} or
> {qojDaq toS} would probably be okay.
To specify destination, we have {yor} "top (exterior)" and in the paq'batlh the volcano Kri'stak's top is referred to as its {yor}:
yor nej qeylIS mIn
Kahless looks up (paq'raD 18:6))
[I don't have the text of the full stanza, only this line. Anyone?] So I imagine it would work like this:
? HuD yorDaq toS
he climbed the mountain
he climbed to the top/summit of the mountain [i.e. destination]
? HuD toS
he climbed the mountain [i.e. as an activity]
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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