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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Do you, personally, accept non-Okrandian Klingon?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (PICHLMANN Christoph)
Mon Mar 18 05:52:46 2013
From: PICHLMANN Christoph <Christoph.PICHLMANN@agrana.com>
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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:52:11 +0000
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I would accept new words that came from the KLI or are approved by them.
I don't doubt that there are authors who will invest a lot of time into the creation of words - but unless someone I know vouches for them, I have no way of knowing so.
We have seen what happens if random authors create "klingon" words in the TV series. There needs to be a central authority - Okrand, or the KLI, but accept words that "someone" created will lead to chaos.
Also, though this is an even more personal opinion, it will devalue the language, as it would appear as a "free for all" pseudo-language where anyone can create new words on the fly.
(Call it elitism, if you like, but I think the idea that there is a central governance that regulates new words is an advantage for a language.)
OTOH, if the author were to invent some fictional region where the words are slang, I might not mind. I don't consider slang words to be part of the language anyway. (At least those tagged with "regional".)
Christoph
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:27:09 -0400
From: "Michael Roney, Jr. PKT" <nahqun@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Do you, personally, accept non-Okrandian
Klingon?
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I have a feeling that most of the group here only uses words invented by Okrand.
Sure, there's the Extended Corpus Project http://kli.org/stuff/ECP.html But it discounts those words itself, "Most of the words here are not properly part of the Klingon language as considered by speakers of the language (they even have sounds not in Klingon),..."
But what about words that authors invent for their books that are in the tlhIngan Hol style?
Keith R. A. DeCandido has plenty of Klingon words in his novels that weren't created by Okrand.
But more importantly, what about the upcoming How to Speak Klingon Audio Phrasebook by Ben Grossblatt.
http://trekmovie.com/2013/03/13/look-inside-upcoming-how-to-speak-klingon-audio-phrasebook/
Ben is not Marc.
Not really sure who Ben is; but CBS approved his book.
I'm looking forward to learning how to say ?You bludgeon divinely.?
~naHQun
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