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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] birds (was Re: Klingon Bird-of-Prey Haynes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Kidder-Mostrom)
Tue Dec 18 09:41:20 2012
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:40:54 -0600
From: Christopher Kidder-Mostrom <cokidder@cbtheatre.org>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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cha'par ... is a pun on Jazz Musician Charlie Parker who was known as "The
Bird" and had a bar called Birdland.
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> De'vID
> > *{cherwItlh} - I've never heard of this, where is it from?
>
> *cherwtl* [sic], a type of bird native to Klinzhai (from the pro-novel
> _Dwellers in the Crucible_). This was coined before Okrand gave us so many
> bird names and occasionally shows up in some fan fiction.
>
>
> > Does anyone know the puns behind these ones?
>
> I don't know them all, but here's what I have in my notes...
>
> > {cha'naS} - a small bird which digs up bugs to eat
>
> 1. National Audubon Society? (NAS)
> 2. *nasnas* ("Another variety of Nasnas, having the wings of a bat,
> inhabits the island of Raij (perhaps Borneo) at the edge of the China
> seas." (
> http://www.hum.au.dk/romansk/borges/vakalo/zf/html/body_the_nasnas.html)?
>
> > {cha'par} - a bird notes for its song
>
> Spanish *parpar* "quack" (the sound made by a duck). (Okrand speaks
> Spanish; indeed his 1977 Ph.D. dissertation "Mutsun Grammar" was primarily
> based on Spanish documents.)
>
> > {lotlhmoq} - a bird that swoops into the water in order to catch food,
> > but cannot swim
>
> Possibly not a pun. It first appeared in Keith R.A. DeCandido's _Enemy
> Territory_ as a "predatory bird native to Qo'noS that swoops into the water
> to catch food".
>
> > {yatqap} - a grey (sometimes white) bird that can travel particularly
> > long distances without pausing
>
> "I thought of swallows - some of them are migratory. How about the first
> syllable of Capistrano? The Swallow was a famous yacht of the late 19th and
> early 20th century; its custom-built boat house Swallow's Nest still stands
> at Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire." (ghunchu'wI')
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
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cha'par ... is a pun on Jazz Musician Charlie Parker who was known as &=
quot;The Bird" and had a bar called Birdland.<div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Steve=
n Boozer <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" targ=
et=3D"_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">De'vID<br>
> *{cherwItlh} - I've never heard of this, where is it from?<br>
<br>
*cherwtl* [sic], a type of bird native to Klinzhai (from the pro-novel _Dwe=
llers in the Crucible_). =A0This was coined before Okrand gave us so many b=
ird names and occasionally shows up in some fan fiction.<br>
<br>
<br>
> Does anyone know the puns behind these ones?<br>
<br>
I don't know them all, but here's what I have in my notes...<br>
<br>
> {cha'naS} - a small bird which digs up bugs to eat<br>
<br>
1. National Audubon Society? (NAS)<br>
2. *nasnas* ("Another variety of Nasnas, having the wings of a bat, in=
habits the island of Raij (perhaps Borneo) at the edge of the China seas.&q=
uot; (<a href=3D"http://www.hum.au.dk/romansk/borges/vakalo/zf/html/body_th=
e_nasnas.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.hum.au.dk/romansk/borges/vakalo=
/zf/html/body_the_nasnas.html</a>)?<br>
<br>
> {cha'par} - a bird notes for its song<br>
<br>
Spanish *parpar* "quack" (the sound made by a duck). =A0(Okrand s=
peaks Spanish; indeed his 1977 Ph.D. dissertation "Mutsun Grammar"=
; was primarily based on Spanish documents.)<br>
<br>
> {lotlhmoq} - a bird that swoops into the water in order to catch food,=
<br>
> but cannot swim<br>
<br>
Possibly not a pun. =A0It first appeared in Keith R.A. DeCandido's _Ene=
my Territory_ as a "predatory bird native to Qo'noS that swoops in=
to the water to catch food".<br>
<br>
> {yatqap} - a grey (sometimes white) bird that can travel particularly<=
br>
> long distances without pausing<br>
<br>
"I thought of swallows - some of them are migratory. How about the fir=
st syllable of Capistrano? The Swallow was a famous yacht of the late 19th =
and early 20th century; its custom-built boat house Swallow's Nest stil=
l stands at Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire." (ghunchu'wI')<=
br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br>
<br>
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