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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Bird-of-Prey Haynes Manual
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Dec 17 09:38:54 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:38:31 +0000
In-Reply-To: <k1h1na0976wk4xhk9dv58qwf.1355604324023@email.android.com>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
De'vID:
>> I think there are three named weapons whose names are
>> noun-noun constructions using known words.
>>
>> These are:
>> *{pach peng} Talon's Strike (torpedo)
>> *{moratlh ro'} Morath's Fist (torpedo)
>> *{notqa' pach} Eagle's Claw (mine)
jaSwa':
> I always thought a {notqa'} was more like a raven.
All we really know about the {notqa'} is that it's:
"a large, black bird (nowhere near as large as a
{qa'rol}, which is really big)" [HolQeD 10.4:4]
The obvious pun is "never again", i.e. "nevermore"! I believe that it was used in Tremail-Naik's (Massimiliano Benini) translation of "The Raven" by Edgar Allen Poe at http://web.archive.org/web/20080116143733/http://www.cs.unibo.it/~mbenini/ although this link is now dead. (Does anyone know if Benini has posted this elsewhere on the Web?)
I see no problem with the {notqa'} being a type of large, black {toQ}:
Bill Willmerdinger asked Okrand about {toQDuj} at BabelCon 2 (April 1997):
According to Marc, a toQ is an avian predator on the
Homeworld whose closest Terran analog would be a bird
of prey ... an animal from {Qo'noS} ... a Klingon
avian analogous to a Terran bird of prey. {toQ} does
not literally mean "bird of prey", it's merely one
type of creature which exhibits characteristics similar
to that grouping of Terran birds.
I compiled a quick list of known birds {bo'Deghmey}: borghel, cha'bIp, cha'Do', cha'naS, cha'par, cha'qu', *cherwItlh, Da'nal, Da'vI', lIr, lotlhmoq, notqa', parbIng, qanraD, qaryoq, qaryoq'a', qa'rol, ramjep, toQ, vem'eq, vIlInHoD, yatqap and possibly {qISa'ruj}. I wouldn't be surprised to find that a few of these were birds of prey as well.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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