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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] DuSaQ

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gaerfindel)
Wed Dec 12 10:36:25 2012

Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:35:54 -0500
From: Gaerfindel <gaerfindel@hotmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
In-Reply-To: <50C898E5.8070403@trimboli.name>
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jIjatlhpu':
    qaStaHvIS po DuSaQDaq leng puqloDjI' puqbe'jI' je.

jang SuStel, jatlh:
    puqloDwI' puqbe'wI' je

jIjang:
   HIvqa veqlargh!

jIjatlhpu'
    'oHDaq lengmeH lupwI' Sov 'ej wov lutIJ.

jang voragh:

   <*SuD*  'ej wov> DaghItlh 'e' DaHechlaw':

   lupwI' SuD 'ej wov lutIj
   they board the yellow(ish) bus

jang SuStel:
    I think you mean:

    SuDbogh lupwI' 'ej wovbogh lutIj

    This is a tricky one, because we don't have rules about using 
multiple adjectivally acting verbs on a single noun, especially if the 
phrase is
    then to get a type 5 noun suffix added to it.

    I have turned the idea into a pair of relative clauses, which is how 
we have seen this done before. (I also got rid of the {lengmeH}, redundant
    because it's implied in {lupwI'}.) Note that they don't "board in" 
the bus, they just "board" the bus.

jIjatlhpu'
    qaStaHvIS pov lupwI' rapDaq chegh.

jang SuStel:
    The lack of any type 7 suffixes on these verbs makes me think you're 
talking about something that happens regularly, rather than something
    that just happened today that you're relating to us.

jIjang:
    Yes, that's it exactly!

ghItlh SuStel:
    jIQupDI' lupwI' vIlIgh. DuSaQ vImuS, Dalmo' 'ej jupwI' puS vISovmo'.
DaH jIQuchbej! DuSaQDaq jIghojbe'! 'ach Dal yaHwIj 'ej jupwI' puS vISov...

jIjang:
    Do'Ha.  jIQupDI' jIval 'ej DuSaQ vItIv, 'ej jup law' vISovpu'.

~quljIb

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    jIjatlhpu':<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; qaStaHvIS po DuSaQDaq leng puqloDjI' puqbe'jI' je.<br>
    <br>
    jang SuStel, jatlh:<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; puqloDwI' puqbe'wI' je
    <br>
    <br>
    jIjang:<br>
    &nbsp; HIvqa veqlargh!<br>
    <br>
    jIjatlhpu'<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; 'oHDaq lengmeH lupwI' Sov 'ej wov lutIJ.
    <br>
    <br>
    jang voragh:<br>
    <pre wrap="">  &lt;<b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>SuD<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> 'ej wov&gt; DaghItlh 'e' DaHechlaw':

  lupwI' SuD 'ej wov lutIj
  they board the yellow(ish) bus
</pre>
    jang SuStel:<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; I think you mean:
    <br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; SuDbogh lupwI' 'ej wovbogh lutIj
    <br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; This is a tricky one, because we don't have rules about using
    multiple adjectivally acting verbs on a single noun, especially if
    the phrase is <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; then to get a type 5 noun suffix added to it.
    <br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; I have turned the idea into a pair of relative clauses, which is
    how we have seen this done before. (I also got rid of the {lengmeH},
    redundant <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; because it's implied in {lupwI'}.)
    Note that they don't "board in" the bus, they just "board" the bus.
    <br>
    <br>
    jIjatlhpu'<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; qaStaHvIS pov lupwI' rapDaq chegh.<br>
    <br>
    jang SuStel:<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; The lack of any type 7 suffixes on these verbs makes me think
    you're talking about something that happens regularly, rather than
    something <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; that just happened today that you're relating to us.<br>
    <br>
    jIjang:<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, that's it exactly!<br>
    <br>
    ghItlh SuStel:<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; jIQupDI' lupwI' vIlIgh. DuSaQ vImuS, Dalmo' 'ej jupwI' puS
    vISovmo'.
    <br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;
    DaH jIQuchbej! DuSaQDaq jIghojbe'! 'ach Dal yaHwIj 'ej jupwI' puS
    vISov...<br>
    <br>
    jIjang:<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp; Do'Ha.&nbsp; jIQupDI' jIval 'ej DuSaQ vItIv, 'ej jup law' vISovpu'.&nbsp; <br>
    <br>
    ~quljIb<br>
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