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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: nub
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Mon Dec 3 14:04:17 2012
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:03:58 +0100
From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >> Klingon word: nub
> >> Part of speech: verb
> >> Definition: be suspect
> >> Source: TKD
>
> Voragh:
> > pIH be suspicious
> > voqHa' distrust
> > voq trust
> > chun be innocent
> > DIv be guilty
> > -law' "suspect that", etc.
>
> De'vID:
> > There's also the noun {nubwI'}, which is defined as
> > "predecessor", and the verb {nung}, "precede". The
> > definition of {nubwI'} is something which is rather
> > suspect.
>
> I've wondered whether this should have been *{nungwI'} from {nung}
> "preceed". But once published it was established and Okrand eventually
> used {nubwI'} in the paq'batlh:
>
> qeylIS bov nubwI'
> before the era of Kahless (PB xiv)
Or Floris Sch=F6nfeld looked up "predecessor", found {nubwI'}, and used it
without ever considering {nungwI'}. I think they're essentially synonyms.
But now it's ambiguous when we say {nubwI'} whether we mean something that
is suspect or a predecessor.
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On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Steven Boozer <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target=3D"_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>=
></span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">>> Klingon word: =A0 nub<br>
>> Part of speech: verb<br>
>> Definition: =A0 =A0 be suspect<br>
>> Source: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 TKD<br>
=A0<br>
Voragh:=A0<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">> pIH =A0 =A0 be suspicious<br>
> voqHa' =A0distrust<br>
> voq =A0 =A0 trust<br>
> chun =A0 =A0be innocent<br>
> DIv =A0 =A0 be guilty<br>
> -law' =A0 "suspect that", etc.<br>
<br>
</div>De'vID:<br>
<div class=3D"im">> There's also the noun {nubwI'}, which is def=
ined as<br>
> "predecessor", and the verb {nung}, "precede". =A0=
The<br>
> definition of {nubwI'} is something which is rather<br>
> suspect.<br>
<br>
</div>I've wondered whether this should have been *{nungwI'} from {=
nung} "preceed". =A0But once published it was established and Okr=
and eventually used {nubwI'} in the paq'batlh:<br>
<br>
=A0 qeylIS bov nubwI'<br>
=A0 before the era of Kahless (PB xiv)</blockquote></div><br>Or=A0Floris Sc=
h=F6nfeld looked up "predecessor", found {nubwI'}, and used i=
t without ever considering {nungwI'}. =A0I think they're essentiall=
y synonyms. =A0But now it's ambiguous when we say {nubwI'} whether =
we mean something that is suspect or a predecessor.<br clear=3D"all">
<div><br></div>-- <br>De'vID<br>
</div>
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