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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Bird-of-Prey Haynes Manual
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Fri Nov 30 15:34:31 2012
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From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:34:03 -0800
To: De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
Cc: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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We weren't providing anything, just proof reading and complaining about the f=
ont. I would say from his reactions to the titles that he wasn't approving t=
hem as the way to say anything in Klingon, just. informing they said somethi=
ng vaguely related to each topic.=20
On 2012-11-30, at 10:54, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Russ Perry, Jr. <russperryjr@sbcglobal.ne=
t> wrote:
>> Does anyone have this?
>>=20
>> Star Trek: Klingon Bird-of-Prey Haynes Manual
>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f03b/?cpg=3D49183126
>>=20
>> I'm wondering if the Klingon in the book is functional, or simply
>> decorative.
>>=20
>> If it's "real" Klingon, was anyone on the list involved with it?
>=20
> =20
> I actually have an email draft about this sitting in my drafts folder, whi=
ch I hadn't sent yet because of the "30 day moratorium" on new canon. Amazo=
n shows a "publication date" of Oct. 24 and a "release date" of Nov. 6, so w=
e are supposed to wait about another week before discussing it. =20
>=20
> I'll answer your question without saying anything about the actual words o=
f the content. Yes, it's *mostly* real Klingon, with a very straightforward=
mapping between the Okrandian transcription and the {pIqaDqoq} used in the b=
ook. =20
>=20
> I'll go a little bit further and say that it's a gorgeous book with a styl=
istic and beautiful script for {pIqaD}, so if you're a Klingonist I'd recomm=
end picking one up. I bought one off Lieven at the qepHom last month (thanks=
, Lieven!).
>=20
> Like you, I have similar questions for the list: What was Marc Okrand's in=
volvement in this and what was the KLI's (they are both credited)? Should t=
he uses and definitions of Klingon terms and Klingon sentences found in this=
book be considered as coming from Okrand (i.e., like the Bird-of-Prey poste=
r), or are they from KLI members?
>=20
> --=20
> De'vID
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>We weren't providing anything, just proof reading and complaining about the font. I would say from his reactions to the titles that he wasn't approving them as the way to say anything in Klingon, just. informing they said something vaguely related to each topic. </div><div><br>On 2012-11-30, at 10:54, "De'vID" <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Russ Perry, Jr. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:russperryjr@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">russperryjr@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Does anyone have this?<br>
<br>
Star Trek: Klingon Bird-of-Prey Haynes Manual<br>
<a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f03b/?cpg=49183126" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f03b/?cpg=49183126</a><br>
<br>
I'm wondering if the Klingon in the book is functional, or simply<br>
decorative.<br>
<br>
If it's "real" Klingon, was anyone on the list involved with it?<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div></div>I actually have an email draft about this sitting in my drafts folder, which I hadn't sent yet because of the "30 day moratorium" on new canon. Amazon shows a "publication date" of Oct. 24 and a "release date" of Nov. 6, so we are supposed to wait about another week before discussing it. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I'll answer your question without saying anything about the actual words of the content. Yes, it's *mostly* real Klingon, with a very straightforward mapping between the Okrandian transcription and the {pIqaDqoq} used in the book. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I'll go a little bit further and say that it's a gorgeous book with a stylistic and beautiful script for {pIqaD}, so if you're a Klingonist I'd recommend picking one up. I bought one off Lieven at the qepHom last month (thanks, Lieven!).</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Like you, I have similar questions for the list: What was Marc Okrand's involvement in this and what was the KLI's (they are both credited)? Should the uses and definitions of Klingon terms and Klingon sentences found in this book be considered as coming from Okrand (i.e., like the Bird-of-Prey poster), or are they from KLI members?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div>-- <br>De'vID<br>
</div>
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