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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] IPA-expert question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Darin Arrick)
Wed Nov 28 05:21:54 2012
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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:46:46 -0500
From: Darin Arrick <darin.arrick@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
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Isn't "paw" spoken as [pa=CD=A1u], with a diphthong, and "paw' " as [pa=CD=
=A1u=CA=94].
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Klingonteacher <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
> I do understand mostly how IPA works and how to fit it to klingon, but fe=
w
> words leave questions open:
>
> 1. How do I mark the difference between {paw} and {paw'}. I'm not sure if
> the glottal stop can be used like this: [paw] vs. [paw?] because we know
> that words like these are pronounced shorter. If I mark the difference li=
ke
> [pa:w], then I must theoretically add the [:] to every word, which doesn'=
t
> really make sense.
>
> 2. What about vowel-ending words?
> is that okay: {tI} vs {tI'} =3D [tI:] vs. [tI?], or only [tI]... ?
>
> Lieven.
>
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Isn't "paw" spoken as [pa=CD=A1u], with a diphthong, and &quo=
t;paw' " as [pa=CD=A1u=CA=94].<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Klingonteacher <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>></spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I do understand mostly how IPA works and how=
to fit it to klingon, but few words leave questions open:<br>
<br>
1. How do I mark the difference between {paw} and {paw'}. I'm not s=
ure if the glottal stop can be used like this: [paw] vs. [paw?] because we =
know that words like these are pronounced shorter. If I mark the difference=
like [pa:w], then I must theoretically add the [:] to every word, which do=
esn't really make sense.<br>
<br>
2. What about vowel-ending words?<br>
is that okay: {tI} vs {tI'} =3D [tI:] vs. [tI?], or only [tI]... ?<br>
<br>
Lieven.<br>
<br>
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