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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Doq 'ej wovbe'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Sun Oct 14 21:02:15 2012

From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:01:57 +1000
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ghItlhpu' qurgh=2C jatlh:
> Klingon word: Doq 'ej wovbe'
> Part of speech: verb
> Definition: be brown

jang quljIb=2C jatlh:
> Why not <<Doq 'ej Hurgh>>?

I believe that'd be equally fine. Doq 'ej wovbe' is presumably presented he=
re because it's attested in canon in association with the meaning "be brown=
".

I was going to keep my trap shut=2C but I'm glad someone else has raised th=
is. With all due respect to qurgh=2C and not wanting to sound like a pedant=
ic old curmudgeon ('coz it's led to fiery confrontation before and I don't =
want that)=2C Doq 'ej wovbe' isn't a verb=3B it wouldn't be conjugated as *=
SuDoq 'ej wovbe'. For that matter=2C it isn't a word either=3B it's a sente=
nce=2C comprised of three grammatically distinct words. Finally=2C it means=
 "be red/orange and be not bright"=3B I think defining it as meaning "be br=
own" is too restrictive. I'd use it to cover a range of colour terms includ=
ing crimson=2C maroon and burgundy=2C all of which for me are subsets of re=
d rather than brown. Conversely=2C from KGT we know that something brown ca=
n be described with Doq alone=2C or with any appropriate modifier=2C such a=
s Qaj wuS rur "resemble kradge lips".

Actually=2C that (along with chaDQI''s recent message about Klingon colour =
terms) makes me think it might be fun to work out where different people's =
Klingon colour boundaries lie. If I made up a basic colour survey=2C would =
anyone be interested in taking it?

QeS
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ghItlhpu' qurgh=2C jatlh:<br>&gt=3B Klingon word: Doq 'ej wovbe'<br><div>&g=
t=3B Part of speech: verb<br>&gt=3B Definition: be brown<br><br>jang quljIb=
=2C jatlh:<br>&gt=3B Why not &lt=3B&lt=3BDoq 'ej Hurgh&gt=3B&gt=3B?<br><br>=
I believe that'd be equally fine. Doq 'ej wovbe' is presumably presented he=
re because it's attested in canon in association with the meaning "be brown=
".<br><br>I was going to keep my trap shut=2C but I'm glad someone else has=
 raised this. With all due respect to qurgh=2C and not wanting to sound lik=
e a pedantic old curmudgeon ('coz it's led to fiery confrontation before an=
d I don't want that)=2C Doq 'ej wovbe' isn't a verb=3B it wouldn't be conju=
gated as *SuDoq 'ej wovbe'. For that matter=2C it isn't a word either=3B it=
's a sentence=2C comprised of three grammatically distinct words. Finally=
=2C it means "be red/orange and be not bright"=3B I think defining it as me=
aning "be brown" is too restrictive. I'd use it to cover a range of colour =
terms including crimson=2C maroon and burgundy=2C all of which for me are s=
ubsets of red rather than brown. Conversely=2C from KGT we know that someth=
ing brown can be described with Doq alone=2C or with any appropriate modifi=
er=2C such as Qaj wuS rur "resemble kradge lips".<br><br>Actually=2C that (=
along with chaDQI''s recent message about Klingon colour terms) makes me th=
ink it might be fun to work out where different people's Klingon colour bou=
ndaries lie. If I made up a basic colour survey=2C would anyone be interest=
ed in taking it?<br><br>QeS<br></div> 		 	   		  </div></body>
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