[94609] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] -Ha' on adverbs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Wed Sep 5 14:43:48 2012
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From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:43:20 -0700
To: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
Cc: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
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So there we go: DaHHa' isn't useful because, despite agreeing that it could have useful meanings, we can't agree on what it means.
The discussion on what it and it's sistets might mean can continue to be fun, but it won't suddenly turn useful.
Meanwhile, I'm writing Klingon smut. Not productive either, but everyone needs a hobby.
- Qov
On 2012-09-05, at 9:46, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 9/5/2012 11:23 AM, Robyn Stewart wrote:
>>
>> This is what makes sense to me, but to me both immediately and now have the same opposite--later.
>
> I don't see "later" as an opposite to "now." The negative of "now," "not now," could refer to any time in the past or future. But a negative isn't the same as an opposite, and I think {-Ha'} on an adverbial indicates an opposite.
>
> I don't see {SIbI'} and {DaH} as synonymous. {SIbI'} means an action is performed without delay, while {DaH} means an action is performed at this time. {DaH} can refer to a very broad period, depending on context. If I'm discussing geology (to take an extreme example), {DaH} is a very long period indeed.
>
> Sure, if you're issuing a command to be followed right away, {DaH} and {SIbI'} can be interchanged. But not every use will work like that.
>
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