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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how does {-Ha'} work on verbs that affect
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ghunchu'wI' 'utlh)
Sun Sep 2 23:12:14 2012
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From: "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 23:11:38 -0400
To: Klingon language email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> But with verbs like {nob}, {ngev}, {ngeH}, which affect two objects,
> it's not clear if anyone other than the object marked with {-vaD} (the
> indirect object, recipient, or beneficiary) can {-Ha'} the original
> action.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
The set of available meanings is often a matter of semantics and shared
assumptions, not grammar. I think appropriate context can make clear the
intent. Indeed, when {-Ha'} is involved, context is usually pretty
important anyway.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D=
"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com<=
/a>></span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
<div id=3D":1o">But with verbs like {nob}, {ngev}, {ngeH}, which affect two=
objects,<br>
it's not clear if anyone other than the object marked with {-vaD} (the<=
br>
indirect object, recipient, or beneficiary) can {-Ha'} the original<br>
action.<br>
<br>
What do y'all think?</div></blockquote></div><br><div>The set of availa=
ble meanings is often a matter of semantics and shared assumptions, not gra=
mmar. I think appropriate context can make clear the intent. Indeed, when {=
-Ha'} is involved, context is usually pretty important anyway.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-- ghunchu'wI'</div>
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