[943] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: NulaDvIp!!!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Tue Jun 1 15:20:24 1993
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From: mark <mark@dragonsys.com>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: Mon, 31 May 93 10:40:01 EST
chojang Qanqor:
> ghorgh Dochvetlh vIghItlhta'? qan, qar'a'? DaH vIqawchu'be'.
> nuq latlh vIja'pu'? DaH Doch vIja'law'taHbogh vIloylaH neH, 'ach
> vIQaghlaw'pu'.
DaHjar wa'maH wa'jaj cha'maH vatlh chorgh rep* mu'tlheghvam labpu'.
(SIbI' Hoch vIlaDlaHbe'.):
> "Unsubscriber"mey DIHoHbe'nIS. HIja', DIHoHvIpbe', 'ach
> DIHoHchoHchuch, qay'law'. nuch chaHba' "unsubscriber"mey'e', vaj
> "unsubscribe"bogh vay' wIHoHchugh, "unsubscribe"vIpchoHbej nuchmey
> 'ej tamtaH 'ej ratlhtaH. ratlh nuchmey wIneHbe'; naDev chaHchugh
> maquvmoHlu'. ---------------------------------------
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[bIngtlhegh vIchel. -- marqem]
chotlhegh HoD:
> ... -Ha' vIlIjlaw'pu'. "wIquvHa'moHlu'" vIghItlhta'chugh yajlu''a'?
HISlaH, yajlu', 'ach qatlh "quvHa'moHlu'" ghItlh 'ej "quvHa'"
neH ghItlhbe' tlhoblu'law'. ^^^^^^ jItaHmeH 'InglIS
vIpo'nIS:
quv X already means "be honored" or "X is honored" (where X is
the subject of quv), so quvHa' = "X is dishonored". moH makes
it causative ("(dis)honor X") and lu' turns that around into
something semantically approximating a passive, "someone/-
something (dis)honors X", where the "someone/something" is
unspecified. But that is very nearly equivalent to what you had
in the beginning, "X is dishonored)", quvHa': moH and lu'
cancel each other out, at least with this verb. There could be
a subtle difference in the results, but vIleghchu'be'.
*5/11 20:08
- marqem
Mark A. Mandel
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