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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay cha'vatlh loSmaH chorgh: quv
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Wed Aug 1 00:26:38 2012
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:26:18 +1000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120731203320.0527c9d8@flyingstart.ca>
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jIghItlhpu'=2C jIjatlh:
> I'm falling behind again...
:/
jang Qov=2C jatlh:
> chaq vIlI' 'e' vImev.
Qo'! At least=2C not on my account. Will my own 'ay'Hom wejDIch slow you up=
a little?
ghItlhpu' Qov=2C jatlh:
> qImyal blamed the attack on the councillor's ship on conspirators=2C
vajar=2C and Romulans.
vIjang=2C jIjatlh:
> Passing the buck is always a good move...
mujang je Qov=2C jatlh:
> I think she's honed that to a fine art. Chapters you've missed
demonstrate the lengths she'll go to for that end.
I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to sitting down and rereading=
through the whole thing.
Qov:
> yejquvvaD Dojbe' wanI'vam=2C
Sa'. wa'Hu' yejquvvaD naDlIj Qav[308] vIngeHpu' 'ach nIlajpa' vIta'Ha'vIpbe=
'.
jIH:
> The clash in person here was a little weird. I'd have expected lulajpa'
(with the object being naDlIj from the previous clause)=2C
Qov:
> I changed the whole sentence to:
> wa'Hu' yejquvvaD qanaDqa'meH QIn chu' vIngeHpu' 'ach
vIta'Ha'vIpbe'.
> Does that work for you to mend both points?
Absolutely. nIv 'ej pup.
> He's already mentioned
in the story that he's working to get her on the council=2C so presumably
he's following some protocol here=2C and talking her up.
And making it clear that he can cease to do so at a moment's notice. I love=
how much is being conveyed in this single sentence.
(poD vay')
Qov:
> =ABjoHwI'=2C Hoch
patmey vItI'ta'. vIrInmoHmeH SoSbor De'wI' vIchu'nISqa'.
Dachaw''a'?=BB
jIH:
> {'e' Dachaw''a'} Sar DaneHmo' bIjatlhbe'pu''a'?
Qov:
> 'ut {'e'} 'e' DaHar'a'? {Qu' Dachaw'a'} ghel qaH'eng 'e' vIlaj.
'ach laDwI' mISmoHlaHchugh vIchoHqang.=20
>Also she is saying what is needed. if I 'e' Dachaw''a' that=2C she's askin=
g
for permission to need to do it.
Good point. I didn't think it was ungrammatical=2C but I wasn't sure if you=
had a specific reason for not using 'e'. The -nIS sort of slipped by me.
Qov:
> Degh SeHlaw
botobmeH Duj puv Hota'ro' Sogh 'e' vIchaw' je.=BB
jIH:
> puv Duj (S33: puvtaHbogh Duj ngabmoHlaw' So'wI')=2C vaj Duj puvmoH nuv 'e=
'
vIQub.
Qov:
> ghaytan bIlugh. DaH {Duj 'or Hota'ro'}
nIv.
Qov:
> Mahoun
ghIjqu'mo' qImyal qab=2C qImyal ghop leghbe'=2C HIvmeH joppa'
Mossam.
jIH:
> tugh qaS Sengna' 'e' vISov...
Qov:
> reH qaS Seng. 'ej jIghuHmoH 'e' vIlIj. va.
batlh vISIQ 'e' vInID.
Qov:
> Haw'lI'
jabwI'pu' Sungpu' je. nISwI' SeHchoH qImyal. Mossam qabDaq Qeq.
chu'wI'Daq QeychoH qImyal SIqwI' 'e' leghlaH Mahoun.
jIH:
> 'ej qojDaq wIHuSqa'moHlu'. laDwI'lI' DaboHmoH 'e' DatIv=2C qar'a'?
:)
Qov:
> bIqar! Mossam HoHqang'a' Qov?
Hoch HoHqangba'qu' Qov net Sov! tlhoblaH neH vay': =ABruch'a' ghaH?=BB
QeS
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jIghItlhpu'=2C jIjatlh:<br>>=3B I'm falling behind again...
:/<div><br>jang Qov=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B chaq vIlI' 'e' vImev.<br><br>Qo'! A=
t least=2C not on my account. Will my own 'ay'Hom wejDIch slow you up a lit=
tle?<br><br>ghItlhpu' Qov=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B qImyal blamed the attack on t=
he councillor's ship on conspirators=2C
vajar=2C and Romulans.<br><br>vIjang=2C jIjatlh:<br>>=3B Passing the buck=
is always a good move...<br><br>mujang je Qov=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B I think =
she's honed that to a fine art. Chapters you've missed
demonstrate the lengths she'll go to for that end.<br><br>I can't tell you =
how much I'm looking forward to sitting down and rereading through the whol=
e thing.<br><br>Qov:<br>>=3B yejquvvaD Dojbe' wanI'vam=2C
Sa'. wa'Hu' yejquvvaD naDlIj Qav[308] vIngeHpu' 'ach nIlajpa' vIta'Ha'vIpbe=
'.<br><br>jIH:<br>>=3B The clash in person here was a little weird. I'd h=
ave expected lulajpa'
(with the object being naDlIj from the previous clause)=2C<br><br>Qov:<br>&=
gt=3B I changed the whole sentence to:<br>>=3B <font style=3D"font-size: =
10pt=3B" size=3D"2">wa'Hu' yejquvvaD qanaDqa'meH QIn chu' vIngeHpu' 'ach
vIta'Ha'vIpbe'.<br>>=3B </font>Does that work for you to mend both points=
?<br><br>Absolutely. nIv 'ej pup.<br><br>>=3B He's already mentioned
in the story that he's working to get her on the council=2C so presumably
he's following some protocol here=2C and talking her up.<br><br>And making =
it clear that he can cease to do so at a moment's notice. I love how much i=
s being conveyed in this single sentence.<br><font style=3D"font-size: 10pt=
=3B" size=3D"2"><br>(poD vay')<br><br></font>Qov:<br>>=3B =ABjoHwI'=2C Ho=
ch
patmey vItI'ta'. vIrInmoHmeH SoSbor De'wI' vIchu'nISqa'.
Dachaw''a'?=BB<br><br>jIH:<br><font style=3D"font-size: 10pt=3B" size=3D"2"=
>>=3B {'e' Dachaw''a'} Sar DaneHmo' bIjatlhbe'pu''a'?</font><br><br>Qov:<=
br>>=3B 'ut {'e'} 'e' DaHar'a'? =3B {Qu' Dachaw'a'} ghel qaH'eng 'e' =
vIlaj.
'ach laDwI' mISmoHlaHchugh vIchoHqang. <br>>=3BAlso she is saying what is=
needed. if I 'e' Dachaw''a' that=2C she's asking
for permission to need to do it.<br><br>Good point. I didn't think it was u=
ngrammatical=2C but I wasn't sure if you had a specific reason for not usin=
g 'e'. The -nIS sort of slipped by me.<br><br>Qov:<br>>=3B Degh SeHlaw
botobmeH Duj puv Hota'ro' Sogh 'e' vIchaw' je.=BB<br><br>jIH:<br><font styl=
e=3D"font-size: 10pt=3B" size=3D"2">>=3B puv Duj (S33: puvtaHbogh Duj nga=
bmoHlaw' So'wI')=2C vaj Duj puvmoH nuv 'e'
vIQub.</font><br><br>Qov:<br>>=3B ghaytan bIlugh. DaH {Duj 'or Hota'ro'}<=
br><br>nIv.<br><br>Qov:<br>>=3B Mahoun
ghIjqu'mo' qImyal qab=2C qImyal ghop leghbe'=2C HIvmeH joppa'
Mossam.<br><br>jIH:<br><font style=3D"font-size: 10pt=3B" size=3D"2">>=3B=
tugh qaS Sengna' 'e' vISov...</font><br><br>Qov:<br>>=3B reH qaS Seng. '=
ej jIghuHmoH 'e' vIlIj. va.<br><br>batlh vISIQ 'e' vInID.<br><br>Qov:<br>&g=
t=3B Haw'lI'
jabwI'pu' Sungpu' je. nISwI' SeHchoH qImyal. Mossam qabDaq Qeq.
chu'wI'Daq QeychoH qImyal SIqwI' 'e' leghlaH Mahoun.<br><br>jIH:<br><font s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 10pt=3B" size=3D"2">>=3B 'ej qojDaq wIHuSqa'moHlu'. la=
DwI'lI' DaboHmoH 'e' DatIv=2C qar'a'?
:)</font><br><br>Qov:<br>>=3B bIqar! =3B Mossam HoHqang'a' Qov?<br><b=
r>Hoch HoHqangba'qu' Qov net Sov! tlhoblaH neH vay': =ABruch'a' ghaH?=BB<br=
><br>QeS<br></div> </div></body>
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