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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH Hut:
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Tue Jul 31 17:07:25 2012
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <CAFK8js25-OQ70tVepJ45QtROZfq=moXNjuwhvt5R4iQrsifjsA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:06:55 -0700
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On 2012-07-31, at 13:31, "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> 229: tlhe'moHlu'DI' 'uymoH
>=20
> jatlh qImyal, =ABvajar HoD, DaHjaj bIQIp. QuD DachermeH DaQuSta' 'e' vItob=
laHmo' DaH DuQantaHbe' patlhlIj.=BB
> =20
> **
> =ABbIQuSta'=BB qar'a'?
bIlugh.=20
> jatlh vajar, =ABvImaghlu'.=BB
>=20
> jatlh qImyal, =ABDamaghlu'bej. pa'vamDaq SIbI' Dumagh naQjej yoH qochlI'.
> =20
> I should be reading this on the nuqbopbom.blogspot.com web site, if only t=
o see the italics. I'd be getting the latest revision that way, too. It's a s=
hame the web content isn't up to where I'm reading.
I stopped updating the web copy once I was convinced to publish it on paper.=
I didn't want to have to make every change in two places and have it format=
ted separately in HTML and OO. I can send you a PDF of the whole thing if yo=
u like. I'm still editing, but have decided not to make changes to the story=
.=20
> 'utbe' 'oy'. qama' SuDvo' De' DanIHlI' 'e' bej.=BB wejpuH. vajar qeHlaw'mo=
' yaH qochDaj buD[325], vajar pummeH neplaw'ta'. jatlh qImyal, =ABpum 'olta'=
naQjej yoH HoDlI'. 'oy' law' SIQpu' jatlhpa'.=BB
> =20
> vIttaH'a' qImyal? veSDaq toy' buDwI' 'e' vIHarlaH, 'ach SaH je naQjej yoH H=
oD 'e' vIlaj vIneHbe'. poH vISovchu'be' -- rep ret 'ar Sevmey QIn DuH qel Qa=
'bar? ngajqu'law'.
nepqang'a' qImyal? 'a chaq wa' ben De'qoqvetlh Suqpu'mo' vajar qImchoHpu'. q=
aStaHvIS wejmaH wej DIS tavetlh ghaj vay' 'e' Sov. chaq nejtaHmeH Hoch Samla=
Hbogh 'ej pumlaHbogh joy'. yabwIjDaq qechv vIghaj chay' lutvaD vIQum?
> tlhoy'Daq joy'wI' luch leghlaH vajar. HochHom ghov vajar.
> =20
> Usually I'm all for more use of explicit subjects, but in this case for so=
me reason the second {vajar} seems overly repetitive.
jIQochbe'. Might have been caused by my rearranging sentences.=20
> joy'wI' ghaHbe'mo' not lo'pu' 'ach 'avwI' ghaHtaHvIS rut joy'wI' luch Say'=
nISmoHpu'. bIHvo' 'Iw, DIr, Hom 'ay'mey je teqpu'.
>=20
> jatlh qImyal, =ABwo' Datoy'qang'a'?=BB
> =20
> wo''e' toy'chu'.
not loD qalHa' yajlaH qImyal.=20
> =ABreH!=BB jatlh vajar. =AB'ach not--=BB
>=20
> =ABHIqaghQo'=BB, jatlh qImyal, =ABreH wo' Datoy'meH bIvang 'e' vISov.=BB Q=
amchoH qImyal 'ej tlhoy'vo' luch wIv. legh vajar 'e' chaw' qImyal, ghopDajDa=
q tlhe'taHvIS.
>=20
> jan nap 'oH. toch bID tIn law' 'oH tIn puS. cha' Donbogh baS naQmey beQ ra=
r cha' tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey.
> =20
> Huj tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey. rarchugh wa' veragh neH, qech vIyajlaH, 'ach r=
armo' cha' vIHbe' naQmey. ghaytan vay' le' DaDel.
Don bIH.=20
> taghDI', baS naQmey chev vagh vatlhvI' 'uj. naQmey jojDaq SIQwI' nItlh lan=
joy'wI'. veragh lutlhe'lu'DI' Duvmo' veragh, baS naQmey cholchuqmoH.
> =20
> jIyajchoHchu'. 'ay'vam pong vIyaj je. Duy' neH mu'tay'.
HIja'. lutvam naQvaD "bridge" "screw" je neH vIHutlhqu'.=20
> cholchuqtaHvIS naQmey, nItlhDaq 'uy. 'oy'qu'moH. HomDu' ghorlaH.[275]
> =20
> naQ 'uymoH. nItlh 'oy'moH. nuch 'eymoH.
'eymoH'a'? SoH Qob law' jIH Qob puS!
> vajarvaD jatlh qImyal, =ABwejmaH wej ben De' pegh QumnIS vay'. DaboQpu'. w=
o' Datoy' 'e' DaHar. maghwI' ghaH 'e' DatlhojDI' bItuHchoHba'. jIyaj. Dapegh=
taHvIS wo' Datoy' 'e' DaHar. qaStaHvIS wejmaH wej DISmey Dapeghchu'taH. DaH D=
achIDchugh quvlIj Damagh 'e' DaHaj. qaboQlaH.=BB
> =20
> wejmaH wej DIS peghna' qech yajbej qImyal.
qun bopmo' lut DumoghmoH 'e' vISov, 'ach wejmaH wej ben qaS lut bID.=20
> jan nuD qImyal Sa' jatlhtaHvIS. veraghmey tlhe'taH. QeymoHtaHvIS 'uychuq n=
aQmey. QeyHa'moHDI' poSchoH naQmey. nIbbogh jan cha'DIch wIv Sa' 'ej nuD je.=
nablI' vajar. tlhIblaw' nuHmeyDaj nge'ta'bogh 'avwI''e'. tlhuHtaHvIS vajar,=
yIvbeHDajDaq taj So'lu'bogh HotlaH.
> =20
> tlhIblaH'a' qImyal QaS le' negh? chaq QuDvaD jIj.
tlhIb chaH pagh tlhIv 'e' DaSIv. chaq moD neH.=20
> vajar nItlhDu' naw'meH qImyal, vajar DeSDu' tlhabnISmoH. ngaQHa'moHDI' taj=
SIchlaH vajar. qImyal HoHlaH pawlaHpa' 'avwI'. chollI' qImyal. vajar paSlog=
h teqchoH. Hu'tegh. yaD joy'laH je janvetlh.
> =20
> Hu'tegh ja''eghtaHvIS vajar, jIHaghchoH jIH. Sot ghaH 'e' vItIvbe', 'ach l=
ut'e' vItIvqu'.
qama' paSlogh teqDI' Sa', tlhaQ. vItlhojDI' vIchoH 'e' vIqel, 'ach HaghnIS l=
aDwI'. DatIvtaHmo' jIbel. vIqon 'e' vItIv 'ach lutIvDI' latlhpu' ghur belwIj=
.=20
loQ ngeDchoHjaj yaHlIj Qu'mey.=20
- Qov
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><span class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -we=
bkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composit=
ion-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">On 2012-07-31, at 13:31, "g=
hunchu'wI' 'utlh" <<a href=3D"mailto:qunchuy@alcaco.net">qunchuy@alcaco.n=
et</a>> wrote:</span><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Qo=
v <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" target=3D"_b=
lank">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">229: tlhe'moHlu'DI' 'uymoH<br><br>jatlh=
qImyal, =C2=ABvajar HoD, DaHjaj bIQIp. QuD DachermeH DaQuSta' 'e' vItoblaHm=
o' DaH DuQantaHbe' patlhlIj.=C2=BB<br>
</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>**</div>
<div>=C2=AB<u>bI</u>QuSta'=C2=BB qar'a'?</div></div></div></blockquote><div>=
<br></div>bIlugh. <div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">jatlh vajar, =C2=ABvImaghlu'.=C2=BB<br>=
<br>jatlh qImyal, =C2=ABDamaghlu'bej. pa'vamDaq SIbI' Dumagh naQjej yoH qoch=
lI'.</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>I should be reading this on the <a href=3D"http://nuqbopbom.blogspot.co=
m/" target=3D"_blank">nuqbopbom.blogspot.com</a> web site, if only to see th=
e italics. I'd be getting the latest revision that way, too. It's a sha=
me the web content isn't up to where I'm reading.</div></div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div>I stopped updating the web copy once I was convinced=
to publish it on paper. I didn't want to have to make every change in two p=
laces and have it formatted separately in HTML and OO. I can send you a PDF o=
f the whole thing if you like. I'm still editing, but have decided not to ma=
ke changes to the story. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">'utbe' 'oy'. qama' SuDvo' De' DanIHlI' '=
e' bej.=C2=BB wejpuH. vajar qeHlaw'mo' yaH qochDaj buD[325], vajar pummeH ne=
plaw'ta'. jatlh qImyal, =C2=ABpum 'olta' naQjej yoH HoDlI'. 'oy' law' SIQpu'=
jatlhpa'.=C2=BB<br>
</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>vIttaH'a' qImyal? <em>veS</em>Daq toy' buDwI' 'e' vIHarlaH, 'ach SaH je=
<em>naQjej yoH</em> HoD 'e' vIlaj vIneHbe'. poH vISovchu'be' -- rep re=
t 'ar Sevmey QIn DuH qel Qa'bar? ngajqu'law'.</div></div></div></blockq=
uote><div><br></div>nepqang'a' qImyal? 'a chaq wa' ben De'qoqvetlh Suqpu'mo'=
vajar qImchoHpu'. qaStaHvIS wejmaH wej DIS tavetlh ghaj vay' 'e' Sov. chaq n=
ejtaHmeH Hoch SamlaHbogh 'ej pumlaHbogh joy'. yabwIjDaq qechv vIghaj chay' l=
utvaD vIQum?</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">tlhoy'Daq joy'wI' luch leghlaH vajar. H=
ochHom ghov vajar.</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>Usually I'm all for more use of explicit subjects, but in this case for=
some reason the second {vajar} seems overly repetitive.</div></di=
v></div></blockquote><div><br></div>jIQochbe'. Might have been caused by my r=
earranging sentences. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">joy'wI' ghaHbe'mo' not lo'pu' 'ach 'avw=
I' ghaHtaHvIS rut joy'wI' luch Say'nISmoHpu'. bIHvo' 'Iw, DIr, Hom 'ay'mey j=
e teqpu'.<br>
<br>jatlh qImyal, =C2=ABwo' Datoy'qang'a'?=C2=BB<br></blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>wo''e' toy'chu'.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>not loD q=
alHa' yajlaH qImyal. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">=C2=ABreH!=C2=BB jatlh vajar. =C2=AB'ac=
h not--=C2=BB<br><br>=C2=ABHIqaghQo'=C2=BB, jatlh qImyal, =C2=ABreH wo' Dato=
y'meH bIvang 'e' vISov.=C2=BB QamchoH qImyal 'ej tlhoy'vo' luch wIv. legh va=
jar 'e' chaw' qImyal, ghopDajDaq tlhe'taHvIS.<br>
<br>jan nap 'oH. toch bID tIn law' 'oH tIn puS. cha' Donbogh baS naQmey beQ r=
ar cha' tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey.</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>Huj tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey. rarchugh wa' veragh neH, qech vIyajlaH, 'ac=
h rarmo' cha' vIHbe' naQmey. ghaytan vay' le' DaDel.</div></div></div><=
/blockquote><div><br></div>Don bIH. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">taghDI', baS naQmey chev vagh vatlhvI' '=
uj. naQmey jojDaq SIQwI' nItlh lan joy'wI'. veragh lutlhe'lu'DI' Duvmo' vera=
gh, baS naQmey cholchuqmoH.</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>jIyajchoHchu'. 'ay'vam pong vIyaj je. Duy' neH mu'tay'.</div></div></di=
v></blockquote><div><br></div>HIja'. lutvam naQvaD "bridge" "screw" je neH v=
IHutlhqu'. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">cholchuqtaHvIS naQmey, nItlhDaq 'uy. 'o=
y'qu'moH. HomDu' ghorlaH.[275]<br></blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>naQ 'uymoH. nItlh 'oy'moH. nuch 'eymoH.</div></div></div></blockquote><=
br>'eymoH'a'? SoH Qob law' jIH Qob puS!</div><div><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">vajarvaD jatlh qImyal, =C2=ABwejmaH wej=
ben De' pegh QumnIS vay'. DaboQpu'. wo' Datoy' 'e' DaHar. maghwI' ghaH 'e' D=
atlhojDI' bItuHchoHba'. jIyaj. DapeghtaHvIS wo' Datoy' 'e' DaHar. qaStaHvIS w=
ejmaH wej DISmey Dapeghchu'taH. DaH DachIDchugh quvlIj Damagh 'e' DaHaj. qab=
oQlaH.=C2=BB<br>
</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>wejmaH wej DIS peghna' qech yajbej qImyal.</div></div></div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div>qun bopmo' lut DumoghmoH 'e' vISov, 'ach wejmaH wej ben qaS=
lut bID. </div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">jan nuD qImyal Sa' jatlhtaHvIS. veraghm=
ey tlhe'taH. QeymoHtaHvIS 'uychuq naQmey. QeyHa'moHDI' poSchoH naQmey. nIbbo=
gh jan cha'DIch wIv Sa' 'ej nuD je. nablI' vajar. tlhIblaw' nuHmeyDaj nge'ta=
'bogh 'avwI''e'. tlhuHtaHvIS vajar, yIvbeHDajDaq taj So'lu'bogh HotlaH.</blo=
ckquote>
<div> </div>
<div>tlhIblaH'a' qImyal QaS le' negh? chaq QuDvaD jIj.</div></div></div=
></blockquote><div><br></div>tlhIb chaH pagh tlhIv 'e' DaSIv. chaq moD neH.&=
nbsp;</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PAD=
DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">vajar nItlhDu' naw'meH qImyal, vajar De=
SDu' tlhabnISmoH. ngaQHa'moHDI' taj SIchlaH vajar. qImyal HoHlaH pawlaHpa' '=
avwI'. chollI' qImyal. vajar paSlogh teqchoH. Hu'tegh. yaD joy'laH je janvet=
lh.<br>
</blockquote>
<div> </div>
<div>Hu'tegh ja''eghtaHvIS vajar, jIHaghchoH jIH. Sot ghaH 'e' vItIvbe', 'ac=
h lut'e' vItIvqu'.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>qama' paSlog=
h teqDI' Sa', tlhaQ. vItlhojDI' vIchoH 'e' vIqel, 'ach HaghnIS laDwI'. DatIv=
taHmo' jIbel. vIqon 'e' vItIv 'ach lutIvDI' latlhpu' ghur belwIj. </div=
><div><br></div><div>loQ ngeDchoHjaj yaHlIj Qu'mey. </div><div><br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>- Qov<br><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>=
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