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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH Hut:
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ghunchu'wI' 'utlh)
Tue Jul 31 16:32:18 2012
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120703121329.0ae16930@flyingstart.ca>
From: "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:31:31 -0400
To: Klingon language email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> 229: tlhe'moHlu'DI' 'uymoH
>
> jatlh qImyal, =ABvajar HoD, DaHjaj bIQIp. QuD DachermeH DaQuSta' 'e'
> vItoblaHmo' DaH DuQantaHbe' patlhlIj.=BB
>
**
=AB*bI*QuSta'=BB qar'a'?
> jatlh vajar, =ABvImaghlu'.=BB
>
> jatlh qImyal, =ABDamaghlu'bej. pa'vamDaq SIbI' Dumagh naQjej yoH qochlI'.
I should be reading this on the nuqbopbom.blogspot.com web site, if only to
see the italics. I'd be getting the latest revision that way, too. It's a
shame the web content isn't up to where I'm reading.
> 'utbe' 'oy'. qama' SuDvo' De' DanIHlI' 'e' bej.=BB wejpuH. vajar qeHlaw'm=
o'
> yaH qochDaj buD[325], vajar pummeH neplaw'ta'. jatlh qImyal, =ABpum 'olta=
'
> naQjej yoH HoDlI'. 'oy' law' SIQpu' jatlhpa'.=BB
>
vIttaH'a' qImyal? *veS*Daq toy' buDwI' 'e' vIHarlaH, 'ach SaH je *naQjej yo=
H
* HoD 'e' vIlaj vIneHbe'. poH vISovchu'be' -- rep ret 'ar Sevmey QIn
DuH qel Qa'bar? ngajqu'law'.
> tlhoy'Daq joy'wI' luch leghlaH vajar. HochHom ghov vajar.
Usually I'm all for more use of explicit subjects, but in this case for
some reason the second {vajar} seems overly repetitive.
> joy'wI' ghaHbe'mo' not lo'pu' 'ach 'avwI' ghaHtaHvIS rut joy'wI' luch
> Say'nISmoHpu'. bIHvo' 'Iw, DIr, Hom 'ay'mey je teqpu'.
>
> jatlh qImyal, =ABwo' Datoy'qang'a'?=BB
>
wo''e' toy'chu'.
> =ABreH!=BB jatlh vajar. =AB'ach not--=BB
>
> =ABHIqaghQo'=BB, jatlh qImyal, =ABreH wo' Datoy'meH bIvang 'e' vISov.=BB =
QamchoH
> qImyal 'ej tlhoy'vo' luch wIv. legh vajar 'e' chaw' qImyal, ghopDajDaq
> tlhe'taHvIS.
>
> jan nap 'oH. toch bID tIn law' 'oH tIn puS. cha' Donbogh baS naQmey beQ
> rar cha' tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey.
Huj tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey. rarchugh wa' veragh neH, qech vIyajlaH, 'ach
rarmo' cha' vIHbe' naQmey. ghaytan vay' le' DaDel.
> taghDI', baS naQmey chev vagh vatlhvI' 'uj. naQmey jojDaq SIQwI' nItlh la=
n
> joy'wI'. veragh lutlhe'lu'DI' Duvmo' veragh, baS naQmey cholchuqmoH.
jIyajchoHchu'. 'ay'vam pong vIyaj je. Duy' neH mu'tay'.
> cholchuqtaHvIS naQmey, nItlhDaq 'uy. 'oy'qu'moH. HomDu' ghorlaH.[275]
>
naQ 'uymoH. nItlh 'oy'moH. nuch 'eymoH.
> vajarvaD jatlh qImyal, =ABwejmaH wej ben De' pegh QumnIS vay'. DaboQpu'. =
wo'
> Datoy' 'e' DaHar. maghwI' ghaH 'e' DatlhojDI' bItuHchoHba'. jIyaj.
> DapeghtaHvIS wo' Datoy' 'e' DaHar. qaStaHvIS wejmaH wej DISmey
> Dapeghchu'taH. DaH DachIDchugh quvlIj Damagh 'e' DaHaj. qaboQlaH.=BB
>
wejmaH wej DIS peghna' qech yajbej qImyal.
> jan nuD qImyal Sa' jatlhtaHvIS. veraghmey tlhe'taH. QeymoHtaHvIS 'uychuq
> naQmey. QeyHa'moHDI' poSchoH naQmey. nIbbogh jan cha'DIch wIv Sa' 'ej nuD
> je. nablI' vajar. tlhIblaw' nuHmeyDaj nge'ta'bogh 'avwI''e'. tlhuHtaHvIS
> vajar, yIvbeHDajDaq taj So'lu'bogh HotlaH.
tlhIblaH'a' qImyal QaS le' negh? chaq QuDvaD jIj.
> vajar nItlhDu' naw'meH qImyal, vajar DeSDu' tlhabnISmoH. ngaQHa'moHDI' ta=
j
> SIchlaH vajar. qImyal HoHlaH pawlaHpa' 'avwI'. chollI' qImyal. vajar
> paSlogh teqchoH. Hu'tegh. yaD joy'laH je janvetlh.
>
Hu'tegh ja''eghtaHvIS vajar, jIHaghchoH jIH. Sot ghaH 'e' vItIvbe', 'ach
lut'e' vItIvqu'.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Qov <span dir=3D=
"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" target=3D"_blank">robyn@f=
lyingstart.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">229: tlhe'moHlu'DI' '=
uymoH<br><br>jatlh qImyal, =ABvajar HoD, DaHjaj bIQIp. QuD DachermeH DaQuSt=
a' 'e' vItoblaHmo' DaH DuQantaHbe' patlhlIj.=BB<br>
</blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>**</div>
<div>=AB<u>bI</u>QuSta'=BB qar'a'?</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">jatlh vajar, =ABvImaghlu'.=BB<br>=
<br>jatlh qImyal, =ABDamaghlu'bej. pa'vamDaq SIbI' Dumagh naQje=
j yoH qochlI'.</blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I should be reading this on the <a href=3D"http://nuqbopbom.blogspot.c=
om/" target=3D"_blank">nuqbopbom.blogspot.com</a> web site, if only to see =
the italics. I'd be getting the latest revision that way, too. It's=
=A0a shame=A0the web content isn't up to where I'm reading.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">'utbe' 'oy'. qama'=
; SuDvo' De' DanIHlI' 'e' bej.=BB wejpuH. vajar qeHlaw&=
#39;mo' yaH qochDaj buD[325], vajar pummeH neplaw'ta'. jatlh qI=
myal, =ABpum 'olta' naQjej yoH HoDlI'. 'oy' law' SI=
Qpu' jatlhpa'.=BB<br>
</blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>vIttaH'a' qImyal? <em>veS</em>Daq toy' buDwI' 'e&#=
39; vIHarlaH, 'ach SaH je=A0<em>naQjej yoH</em> HoD 'e' vIlaj v=
IneHbe'. poH vISovchu'be' -- rep ret 'ar Sevmey QIn DuH=A0q=
el Qa'bar? ngajqu'law'.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">tlhoy'Daq joy'wI' luch le=
ghlaH vajar. HochHom ghov vajar.</blockquote>
<div>=A0=A0</div>
<div>Usually I'm all for more use of explicit subjects, but in this cas=
e for some reason=A0the second {vajar}=A0seems overly repetitive.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">joy'wI' ghaHbe'mo' no=
t lo'pu' 'ach 'avwI' ghaHtaHvIS rut joy'wI' luc=
h Say'nISmoHpu'. bIHvo' 'Iw, DIr, Hom 'ay'mey je te=
qpu'.<br>
<br>jatlh qImyal, =ABwo' Datoy'qang'a'?=BB<br></blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>wo''e' toy'chu'.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">=ABreH!=BB jatlh vajar. =AB'ach n=
ot--=BB<br><br>=ABHIqaghQo'=BB, jatlh qImyal, =ABreH wo' Datoy'=
meH bIvang 'e' vISov.=BB QamchoH qImyal 'ej tlhoy'vo' l=
uch wIv. legh vajar 'e' chaw' qImyal, ghopDajDaq tlhe'taHvI=
S.<br>
<br>jan nap 'oH. toch bID tIn law' 'oH tIn puS. cha' Donbog=
h baS naQmey beQ rar cha' tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey.</blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Huj tlhe'laHbogh veraghmey. rarchugh wa' veragh neH, qech vIya=
jlaH, 'ach rarmo' cha' vIHbe'=A0naQmey. ghaytan vay' le=
' DaDel.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">taghDI', baS naQmey chev vagh vat=
lhvI' 'uj. naQmey jojDaq SIQwI' nItlh lan joy'wI'. vera=
gh lutlhe'lu'DI' Duvmo' veragh, baS naQmey cholchuqmoH.</bl=
ockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>jIyajchoHchu'. 'ay'vam pong vIyaj je. Duy' neH mu'=
tay'.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">cholchuqtaHvIS naQmey, nItlhDaq '=
uy. 'oy'qu'moH. HomDu' ghorlaH.[275]<br></blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>naQ 'uymoH. nItlh 'oy'moH. nuch 'eymoH.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">vajarvaD jatlh qImyal, =ABwejmaH wej =
ben De' pegh QumnIS vay'. DaboQpu'. wo' Datoy' 'e&#=
39; DaHar. maghwI' ghaH 'e' DatlhojDI' bItuHchoHba'. jI=
yaj. DapeghtaHvIS wo' Datoy' 'e' DaHar. qaStaHvIS wejmaH we=
j DISmey Dapeghchu'taH. DaH DachIDchugh quvlIj Damagh 'e' DaHaj=
. qaboQlaH.=BB<br>
</blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>wejmaH wej DIS peghna' qech yajbej qImyal.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">jan nuD qImyal Sa' jatlhtaHvIS. v=
eraghmey tlhe'taH. QeymoHtaHvIS 'uychuq naQmey. QeyHa'moHDI'=
; poSchoH naQmey. nIbbogh jan cha'DIch wIv Sa' 'ej nuD je. nabl=
I' vajar. tlhIblaw' nuHmeyDaj nge'ta'bogh 'avwI'=
9;e'. tlhuHtaHvIS vajar, yIvbeHDajDaq taj So'lu'bogh HotlaH.</b=
lockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>tlhIblaH'a' qImyal QaS le' negh?=A0chaq QuDvaD jIj.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">vajar nItlhDu' naw'meH qImyal=
, vajar DeSDu' tlhabnISmoH. ngaQHa'moHDI' taj SIchlaH vajar. qI=
myal HoHlaH pawlaHpa' 'avwI'. chollI' qImyal. vajar paSlogh=
teqchoH. Hu'tegh. yaD joy'laH je janvetlh.<br>
</blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Hu'tegh ja''eghtaHvIS vajar, jIHaghchoH jIH. Sot ghaH '=
;e' vItIvbe', 'ach lut'e' vItIvqu'.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-- ghunchu'wI'</div></div>
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