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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] chIjwI' tIQ bom: {baQ} {DeH} je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Tue Jul 10 10:07:23 2012
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:07:08 +1000
In-Reply-To: <805B357C-F38A-4D94-A797-0DB0B217824E@alcaco.net>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
jIjatlhpu':
> chIrgh leng wIlengtaHvIS maH tay'
> mutlhejqangchugh nuv QaQ,
> Dunqu'; jIHvaD lengvetlh 'ey DeH
> SawwI' 'uQ'a' 'ey baQ!
mujangpu' De'vID, jatlh:> It may just be me, but I read {wIlengtaHvIS maH m=
utlhej nuv} as "a> person accompanies *us* while *we* travel", i.e., the {m=
aH} excludes> the (additional) companion.
jIjang jIH, jIjatlh:
> I'm a little surprised to hear that. {mu-} isn't one of the prefixes> tha=
t is defective for number: {mutlhej} can only mean "he/she/it/they> accompa=
ny *me*".
jatlh De'vID:
> Regardless of my error, my point was that I read the {maH} as *excluding>=
the companion*, which I thought might not have been what you intended> (bu=
t which, with your clarification in the next verse below, apparently> was r=
eally what you intended after all).
To be honest, no. You're right, the {maH} *was* supposed to be the speakera=
nd the tlhejwI'(or tlhejwI'pu', however many doesn't matter).
jIH:
> chIrgh leng wIlengtaHvIS maH tay' -
> Qunma' wIQummeH He;
> QunvaD matorlaHmeH maH Hoch,
> wIvuvmeH; qup, ghu, chaj, maqoch,
> Quchqu'bogh loD be' je!
De'vID:
> Also: An opportunity to use {SenwI' rIlwI' je}?
Ah, that's one I hadn't considered. It's possible, but I'll have to see ifI=
can work it in (I think I'll have to drop a bit of something in order todo=
so).
jIH:
> My Klingon brain can't see a problem with {leng tIq vIlengpu'} "I have> t=
ravelled a long journey"
De'vID:> It's actually fine.=A0 I had no problem understanding it, and it d=
oes =
seem> like an obvious way to use the verb.=A0 I'd probably use it that way =
myself.
Good to know. I don't want to be completely pulling usages out of thin air!
> I just pointed it out because I wasn't sure if we knew for sure
{leng}> could take the trip as its object.
Oh, absolutely. No, to the best of my knowledge we don't have any canon for=
that.
QeS 'utlh
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