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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tay
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Kidder)
Tue Jun 19 12:15:39 2012
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:15:20 -0500
From: Christopher Kidder <cokidder@cbtheatre.org>
To: Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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I've always liked this word, namely because we used it as part of the name
of what is celebrated in the "Klingon Christmas Carol" ... ram nI' tay.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> As I read this this morning, I said, "Hmm, I wonder what Marc thinks of
> wearing a tie?"
>
>
> At 09:32 '?????' 6/19/2012, Steven Boozer wrote:
>
>> > Klingon word: tay
>> > Part of speech: noun
>> > Definition: ceremony, rite, ritual
>>
>> Never used by itself in a sentence, but {tay} does appear in many
>> compounds:
>>
>> chontay ritual hunt (n)
>> Heghtay Death Ritual (n)
>> muvtay initiation (n)
>> nentay Rite of Ascension (n)
>> qutluch tay Kut'luch Ceremony (n)
>> ruStay R'uustai, bonding ritual (n)
>> tayqeq civilization (n)
>>
>> Others on the List have suggested:
>>
>> *Darghtay Tea Ceremony (?)
>> *majQa' tay Rite of MajQa (?)
>> *naltay mating ritual (?)
>> *ngaghtay mating ritual (?)
>> *tlhoghtay wedding, marriage ceremony (?)
>>
>> Cultural notes:
>>
>> KGT 11: While the conventional phrases used in some rituals are uttered
>> in modern Klingon (such as those used in the Rite of Ascension, a ceremony
>> symbolizing a young Klingon's attainment of a certain spiritual level),
>> those used in a great many others are in a form of {no' Hol} (such as those
>> associated with the {bIreqtal} [brek'tal], the ceremony in which the killer
>> of the leader of a Klingon house marries the widow and thereby becomes the
>> head of the house himself). In these cases, the phrases must be studied and
>> memorized by the participants, then repeated back accurately. Improvising
>> or paraphrasing is entirely inappropriate. Depending on when the phrases
>> for the ritual originated, the words and grammatical constructions may be
>> somewhat like or very different from those of modern Klingon.
>>
>> KGT 133: Younger Klingons, while accepting their heritage and observing
>> the ancient rites, see some aspects of their elders' behavior and beliefs
>> as, if not obsolete, then just old-fashioned.
>>
>> Apparently the idiom is {tay lop} "observe/celebrate a ritual":
>>
>> Heghtay lulop latlh tlhInganpu'. Heghtay luloptaHvIS chaH chaq bey SeQ
>> lujach
>> other Klingons may perform a ceremonial howl or yell as part of the
>> Klingon death ritual. S31
>>
>> nentay loptaHvIS tlhIngan potlh tlhIngan 'oy'naQ'e'
>> The Klingon Painstik is an important part of a Klingon's Age of
>> Ascension ceremony. S32
>>
>> Related words:
>>
>> lop celebration (n)
>> lop observe, celebrate (a ritual) (v)
>> SeQ be formal/ritualistic/ceremonial (v)
>> SeQHa' be informal (v)
>> tay be civilized (v)
>> taymoH civilize (v)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Voragh
>> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>>
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I've always liked this word, namely because we used it as part of the n=
ame of what is celebrated in the "Klingon Christmas Carol" ... ra=
m nI' tay.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 a=
t 10:44 AM, Qov <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.c=
a" target=3D"_blank">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As I read this this morning, I said, "H=
mm, I wonder what Marc thinks of wearing a tie?"<div class=3D"HOEnZb">=
<div class=3D"h5">
<br>
<br>
At 09:32 '?????' 6/19/2012, Steven Boozer wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Klingon word: =A0 tay<br>
> Part of speech: noun<br>
> Definition: =A0 =A0 ceremony, rite, ritual<br>
<br>
Never used by itself in a sentence, but {tay} does appear in many compounds=
:<br>
<br>
chontay =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ritual hunt (n)<br>
Heghtay =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Death Ritual (n)<br>
muvtay =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0initiation (n)<br>
nentay =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rite of Ascension (n)<br>
qutluch tay =A0 =A0 Kut'luch Ceremony (n)<br>
ruStay =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0R'uustai, bonding ritual (n)<br>
tayqeq =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0civilization (n)<br>
<br>
Others on the List have suggested:<br>
<br>
*Darghtay =A0 =A0 =A0 Tea Ceremony (?)<br>
*majQa' tay =A0 =A0 Rite of MajQa (?)<br>
*naltay =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mating ritual (?)<br>
*ngaghtay =A0 =A0 =A0 mating ritual (?)<br>
*tlhoghtay =A0 =A0 =A0wedding, marriage ceremony (?)<br>
<br>
Cultural notes:<br>
<br>
KGT 11: =A0While the conventional phrases used in some rituals are uttered =
in modern Klingon (such as those used in the Rite of Ascension, a ceremony =
symbolizing a young Klingon's attainment of a certain spiritual level),=
those used in a great many others are in a form of {no' Hol} (such as =
those associated with the {bIreqtal} [brek'tal], the ceremony in which =
the killer of the leader of a Klingon house marries the widow and thereby b=
ecomes the head of the house himself). In these cases, the phrases must be =
studied and memorized by the participants, then repeated back accurately. I=
mprovising or paraphrasing is entirely inappropriate. Depending on when the=
phrases for the ritual originated, the words and grammatical constructions=
may be somewhat like or very different from those of modern Klingon.<br>
<br>
KGT 133: =A0Younger Klingons, while accepting their heritage and observing =
the ancient rites, see some aspects of their elders' behavior and belie=
fs as, if not obsolete, then just old-fashioned.<br>
<br>
Apparently the idiom is {tay lop} "observe/celebrate a ritual":<b=
r>
<br>
=A0Heghtay lulop latlh tlhInganpu'. Heghtay luloptaHvIS chaH chaq bey =
SeQ lujach<br>
=A0other Klingons may perform a ceremonial howl or yell as part of the Kli=
ngon death ritual. S31<br>
<br>
=A0nentay loptaHvIS tlhIngan potlh tlhIngan 'oy'naQ'e'<br>
=A0The Klingon Painstik is an important part of a Klingon's Age of Asc=
ension ceremony. S32<br>
<br>
Related words:<br>
<br>
lop =A0 =A0 celebration (n)<br>
lop =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 observe, celebrate (a ritual) (v)<br>
SeQ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 be formal/ritualistic/ceremonial (v)<br>
SeQHa' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0be informal (v)<br>
tay =A0 =A0 be civilized (v)<br>
taymoH =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0civilize (v)<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br>
<br>
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