[93585] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Time and Type 7 verb suffixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Fri Jun 8 03:16:53 2012
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:16:39 +1000
In-Reply-To: <4FD10E8C.2020009@trimboli.name>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
I've been largely staying out of this argument for a number of reasons, mainly the
fact that it's got heated more than once and I'm not up for a seriously protracted
argument. However, there's one minor tangential point that canon doesn't back up.
ghItlhpu' SuStel, jatlh:
> puchpa'Daq jIHtaH
> I was in the bathroom.
> I was inhabiting the bathroom over a span of time.
> **Note that whenever Okrand uses -Daq <pro> to describe the location of
> a movable object, he uses {-taH}, whereas whenever he describes the
> location of a permanent object he uses no aspect suffix.**
Not quite "whenever". Skybox card S27 has {-taH} on a permanent object:
pa' 'oHtaH vaS'a''e'
The Great Hall is there
Also, arguably (depending on how permanent you consider Deep Space Nine to be),
from S99:
He ghoSlu'bogh retlhDaq 'oHtaH
It (Deep Space Nine) lies beside a path which is travelled...
And in contrast, {-taH} seems never to be used in a question with {nuqDaq}, whether
or not the object is moveable:
nuqDaq 'oH puchpa''e'?
Where is the toilet? (CK)
nuqDaq 'oH jengva''e'?
Where is the plate? (KGT)
QeS 'utlh
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