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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mutually subordinate clauses?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Sun Jun 3 10:58:19 2012

From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: De'vID jonpIn <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>, "tlhIngan-Hol@KLI.org"
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:57:28 +0000
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While I don't think there's anything strictly ruling such sentences out, I'm quite sure there's nothing ruling them in, neither, and it seems quite wrong to me. I might imagine it being used in casual conversations, though, just as I can imagine a Klingon casually throwing out a stand-alone subordinate clause.

I'd probably recast it as {wIHIvlu'be'chugh [vaj] mapawbej.} ("We'll certainly get there unless we're attacked.}.

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From: De'vID jonpIn [de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 16:35
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Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] mutually subordinate clauses?

I suspect that most people would understand the following sentence,
but is it grammatically aberrant?

{mapawbe'chugh wIHIvlu'pu'mo'} "If we do not arrive, it is because we
have been attacked."

Does it need to be recast as something like one of the following?
{mapawbe'chugh wIHIvlu'pu'mo' mapawbe'}
{mapawbe'chugh vaj wIHIvlu'pu'}

(I didn't invent the original sentence, I read a sentence like it
somewhere and understood it, but its grammar bothered me a bit so I
replaced the words to form a grammatically equivalent sentence, for
the purposes of discussing it.)

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De'vID

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