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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh chorghmaH Soch: bIQ
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmIt tI'wI'nuv)
Fri Jun 1 17:03:17 2012
From: lojmIt tI'wI'nuv <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:03:00 -0400
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Perhaps it would help to distinguish among
QummeH 'ul
HoSmeH 'ul
wovmeH 'ul
ra'meH 'ul
Just a thought. Here on Earth, most forms of energy are used one way. =
Fuel burns for heat, or explodes to drive crank shafts (typically to =
turn wheels or propellers), or essentially forms a sustained explosion =
to drive turbines to push things through the air or to generate =
electricity. The electricity gets used in all sorts of ways. Computers =
and communication devices, locomotives, industrial robots, flashlights, =
spotlights (all those other kinds of lights, except for kerosine lamps), =
and all manner of other functions where either batteries or AC wires =
will power them.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Robyn Stewart wrote:
> I considered that, but from sign, omen to something describing =
electricity ... it's a bit of a stretch. QIn or jabbI'ID would have been =
clearer for
> me. 'ul alone was sufficient.=20
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> Sent from a mobile device through a temporary connection.=20
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> On 2012-06-01, at 11:15, "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>> De'vID:
>>>> chay' SeH? SeHmeH 'ul maQ Qay'a'? pagh SeHmeH vIH'a' SIrgh'a'?
>>=20
>> Qov:
>>> maQ vIyajbe'. mu' chu' tetlhmeyDaq vInej 'ach vISamlaHbe'.
>>=20
>> chu' mu'vam 'ach chu'be' je. {maQmIgh} DaSov, qar'a'? mu' ngo' 'oH.
>> {mIgh} DaSovbej je. qen {paq'batlh} wIlaDDI' mu'na' 'oH {maQ}'e' 'e'
>> wIghojpu'. raplaw' {maQmIgh}, {maQ mIgh} je.
>>=20
>> Based on its use in {paq'batlh} (on p. 63), it means "signal" in the
>> sense of a sign that some action should be taken. I was going for
>> *{'ul maQ} to mean "electrical signal". I understood you were =
talking
>> about cables, but I wasn't sure whether the cables you were referring
>> to were electrical cables (i.e., they controlled the engine by =
sending
>> impulses to its motors) or mechanical/tension cables (i.e., they
>> controlled the engine by pulling on various mechanical parts). Also,
>> it didn't help that {HoS} means both "power" and "energy", so even if
>> you had said the cables were transferring {HoS}, I wouldn't have been
>> sure whether they transferred electrical or mechanical energy. (I'm
>> sure Klingon physicists must have specialised terms for "power",
>> "energy", and "force", as we do.) But your description with {luH} =
and
>> {yuv} answered my question.
>>=20
>> --=20
>> De'vID
>>=20
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">Perhaps it would help to distinguish among<div><br></div><div>QummeH =
'ul</div><div>HoSmeH 'ul</div><div>wovmeH 'ul</div><div>ra'meH =
'ul<br><div><br></div><div>Just a thought. Here on Earth, most forms of =
energy are used one way. Fuel burns for heat, or explodes to drive crank =
shafts (typically to turn wheels or propellers), or essentially forms a =
sustained explosion to drive turbines to push things through the air or =
to generate electricity. The electricity gets used in all sorts of ways. =
Computers and communication devices, locomotives, industrial robots, =
flashlights, spotlights (all those other kinds of lights, except for =
kerosine lamps), and all manner of other functions where either =
batteries or AC wires will power them.</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Robyn Stewart wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I =
considered that, but from sign, omen to something describing electricity =
... it's a bit of a stretch. QIn or jabbI'ID would have been clearer =
for<br>me. 'ul alone was sufficient. <br><br>Sent from a mobile device =
through a temporary connection. <br><br>On 2012-06-01, at 11:15, "De'vID =
jonpIn" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<br><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">De'vID:<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">chay' =
SeH? SeHmeH 'ul maQ Qay'a'? pagh SeHmeH vIH'a' =
SIrgh'a'?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Qov:<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">maQ vIyajbe'. mu' chu' tetlhmeyDaq vInej 'ach =
vISamlaHbe'.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">chu' mu'vam =
'ach chu'be' je. {maQmIgh} DaSov, qar'a'? mu' ngo' =
'oH.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">{mIgh} DaSovbej je. =
qen {paq'batlh} wIlaDDI' mu'na' 'oH {maQ}'e' =
'e'<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">wIghojpu'. raplaw' =
{maQmIgh}, {maQ mIgh} je.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Based on its =
use in {paq'batlh} (on p. 63), it means "signal" in =
the<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">sense of a sign that some =
action should be taken. I was going =
for<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">*{'ul maQ} to mean =
"electrical signal". I understood you were =
talking<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">about cables, but I =
wasn't sure whether the cables you were =
referring<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">to were electrical =
cables (i.e., they controlled the engine by =
sending<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">impulses to its =
motors) or mechanical/tension cables (i.e., =
they<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">controlled the engine by =
pulling on various mechanical parts). =
Also,<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">it didn't help =
that {HoS} means both "power" and "energy", so even =
if<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">you had said the cables =
were transferring {HoS}, I wouldn't have =
been<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">sure whether they =
transferred electrical or mechanical energy. =
(I'm<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">sure Klingon physicists =
must have specialised terms for "power",<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">"energy", and "force", as we do.) But your =
description with {luH} and<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">{yuv}=
answered my question.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">-- =
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type=3D"cite">De'vID<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
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