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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingan with IPA

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?=)
Wed May 30 18:45:15 2012

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:44:55 +0200
From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
To: Lieven Litaer <lieven.litaer@web.de>,
 "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Hi Lieven,
I don't think it's off-topic at all, and others might be interested too.
It's not too difficult to write either. I'll give an extra explanation for
the characters in case it doesn't come through...

So {Duy} would be simply written as [=C9=96uj] in IPA, that's a retroflex d
(looks like a "d" with a little hook at the bottom), followed by a normal
looking "u" and a normal-looking "j". No difficulties here, if you can
locate that "d" with the little hook.
The word {Duy'} has an extra glottal stop to the end, so it's [=C9=96uj=CA=
=94]. You
can find the glottal stop character in the character map. It should look
like similar to a questionmark without the dot. Combinations like [-w=CA=94=
] and
[-j=CA=94] are infrequent in the typical European languages but actually oc=
cur
in other languages in Asia, North America and if I'm not mistaken also in
Arabic.

Greetings from Leipzig,
- Andr=C3=A9


2012/5/31 Lieven Litaer <lieven.litaer@web.de>

> I understand most of IPA, but how do I write the difference between {Duy}
> and {Duy'}? This might be a bit off topic and too dificult to write anywa=
y,
> so please answer in private message, maybe with a picture.
>
> Lieven.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Lieven,<br>I don&#39;t think it&#39;s off-topic at all,=
 and others might be interested too. It&#39;s not too difficult to write ei=
ther. I&#39;ll give an extra explanation for the characters in case it does=
n&#39;t come through...<br>
<br>So {Duy} would be simply written as [=C9=96uj] in IPA, that&#39;s a ret=
roflex d (looks like a &quot;d&quot; with a little hook at the bottom), fol=
lowed by a normal looking &quot;u&quot; and a normal-looking &quot;j&quot;.=
 No difficulties here, if you can locate that &quot;d&quot; with the little=
 hook.<br>
The word {Duy&#39;} has an extra glottal stop to the end, so it&#39;s [=C9=
=96uj=CA=94]. You can find the glottal stop character in the character map.=
 It should look like similar to a questionmark without the dot. Combination=
s like [-w=CA=94] and [-j=CA=94] are infrequent in the typical European lan=
guages but actually occur in other languages in Asia, North America and if =
I&#39;m not mistaken also in Arabic.<br>
<br>Greetings from Leipzig,<br>- Andr=C3=A9<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">2012/5/31 Lieven Litaer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:liev=
en.litaer@web.de" target=3D"_blank">lieven.litaer@web.de</a>&gt;</span><br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I understand most of IPA, but how do I write the difference between {Duy} a=
nd {Duy&#39;}? This might be a bit off topic and too dificult to write anyw=
ay, so please answer in private message, maybe with a picture.<br>
<br>
Lieven.<br>
<br>
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