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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh SochmaH
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Thu May 10 05:22:57 2012
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh
<qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:22:10 +0000
In-Reply-To: <FE0205A9-33B9-46BC-86B2-9A1EB6015C85@flyingstart.ca>
Cc: Klingon language email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
>> chay' mavang 'e' bochup?"
>> (Ooh, nice Question As Object. I think it works perfectly.)
> bong vIta'. motlh vIjun. =
vInaD je. bIghelqu'meH ghelmeH mu' Dalo'chugh, Hol pab Dapablaw'.
yIqel:
nuq Datlhutlh DaneH? [EuroTalk]
vay' DamaqmeH ghelmeH mu' Dalo'chugh, vaj bIoabHa'law'.
chovnatlh:
jach martaq, jatlh, =ABHoHta' wo'rIv 'e' vIlegh!=BB
ghel ghawran, jatlh, =AB'Iv HoHta' 'e' Dalegh?=BB
Hol pab pabHa'law' ghawran ghelDI': nuv'e' HoHta'bogh wo'rIv ngu' martaq ne=
H ghawran, vaj ghelmeH ghelmeH mu' lo' 'ej mu'tlhegh'a'vaD ghelmeH mu'tlheg=
h mojmoH ghelmeH mu'.
'ach jangDI' martaq bIng mu'tlhegh jatlhchugh, pabHa'law':
=AB'Iv HoHta' wo'rIv 'e' vIleghbe'. pa' HurghtaH 'ej ngugh jIchechtaH.=BB
Dung mu'tlheghvaD ghelmeH mu'tlhegh mojmoHbe' ghelmeH mum, vaj mu'vam lo'Ha=
'pu' martaq.
vay' Damaq DaneHchugh, yImaq! yIghelQo'!
=ABHeghpu'wI' vIngu'laHbe'. ngugh jIchechtaH 'ej pa' HurghtaH.=BB
DIvI' Hol jatlhtaHvIS vay', rut ngu'meH mu'mey Da ghelmeH mu'meH. Huj.
[SKI: Judging from the canonical sentence =ABnuq Datlhutlh DaneH=BB, it see=
ms it's okay to use a question as an object if the elements that make the f=
irst sentence a question also make the resulting two-sentence construction =
a question.
For example, if somebody comes up to you and shouts =ABHoHta' wo'rIv 'e' vI=
legh!=BB ("I saw Worf kill him/her them!"), it seems you'd be in your right=
to ask =AB'Iv HoHta' 'e' Dalegh?=BB to mean "Who did you see him kill?". H=
owever, the first person cannot then respond =AB'Iv HoHta' 'e' vIleghbe'.=
=BB as if to say "I didn't see who it was that Worf killed."; that's using =
'Iv as a relative pronoun, which is not allowed.
...though if Klingon has rhetorical questions, I suppose it may make sense =
to ask "Who HAVEN'T I seen Worf kill?"
The guy's an alien-boppin', prune juice-poppin' succession machine!]
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