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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh SochmaH

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed May 9 16:52:31 2012

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:52:21 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAFK8js2HvgGUY9rKFrYFOwzgifU5M0oo3svGT+o85OJdqrZUVg@mail.gmail.com>
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Qov:
>> chegh Hota'ro' ghutar je. yIQchu'. yIttaHvIS naQvo' HuS gheDchaj.
>> chemvaH rur. ror 'ej pIv veD. "majQa'!" jatlh vajar. ghIq jatlh,
>> "maja'chuqnIS." beb HeH bIngDaq gheD luQotmoH.

ghunchu'wI':
> Unless the animal is still alive and they're letting it get some rest,
> I believe this stretches the meaning of {Qot} past reasonable limits.
> The "recline" meaning gives me the impression that it shouldn't apply
> to something inanimate. 

Agreed.  FYI {Qot} "lie, recline" in canon:

  DungDaq legh 'ej QotnIStaH romuluSngan be'pu' 
  Romulan women belong on their backs! (ST5 notes)

  QongDaqDaq Qotbe' tlhInganpu' 
  Klingons do not lie in bed. (TKW)

  QotDI' gheD tlhejbe' wamwI' 
  The hunter does not lie down with the prey. (TKW)

> I consider the verb to be almost the opposite of {Hu'}.

or the opposite of {Qam} "stand":

  QamvIS Hegh qaq law' torvIS yIn qaq puS 
  Better to die on our feet than live on our knees. (ST6 & TKW)

  yIyong 'ej pa' yIQam 
  Get in and stand there. (CK)

  Qam 
  Stand! (PK)

  poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI' 
  The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors.  (S9)

{Hu'} "get up" in canon is unhelpful:

 yIHu'
 [Get up! (untranslated)] (ST3 & ST6)


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


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