[93170] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] HeghvIpbe'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon May 7 10:23:06 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 14:22:55 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmPgGox43ZAmZJ-xZyYrxy-1c7jjFy3XT1oP7vYQyofk6w@mail.gmail.com>
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De'vID jonpIn:
> nIponDaq qaStaHvIS veS poH, nom veng weH yotbogh mangghom 'ej DanchoH.
> During the civil wars in feudal Japan, an invading army would quickly
> sweep into a town and take control.
>
> Notes: I didn't bother trying to translate "civil war" (feel free to
> offer your suggestions),
Understandable, however {nIponDaq qaStaHvIS veS poH} could also refer to WWII Japan in the 1940's. As civil wars are endemic to Klingon society, SuStel (IIRC) came up with *{tlhach veS/noH} - from {tlhach} sect, faction" - to describe them, which I think is perfect given the Klingon context. So making one minor change:
nIponDaq qaStaHvIS tlhach veS poH/bov
during the period/era of factional warfare in Japan
"Feudal" is another problem however. {nIpon tIQ} "ancient Japan" doesn't work since Japan's feudal period wasn't all that long ago at least from our 2012 perspective. But perhaps viewed from 24th century Kronos... <g> OTOH it seems that since The Klingon Empire is itself a feudal society of sorts, this would be unremarkable from their point of view.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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