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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: wa'vatlh javmaH cha':
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Apr 18 15:45:03 2012
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
<tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:44:53 +0000
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Qov:
>> Hagh vajar. jatlh, "nuq? 'IH ghaH. SoH DuHotDI' DatIv, qar'a'?"
>> vajarDaq boqrat chej chuH Hota'ro'.
ghunchu'wI':
> {chuH} has the target as its object, and I'm pretty sure it applies
> literally only to throwing spears.
KGT 149: The object of {chuH} is usually the intended target, the person or thing at which the spear is thrown.
jagh chuH SuvwI'
The warrior spears the enemy.
The warrior throws [a spear] at the enemy. KGT
jagh chuHchu' SuvwI'
The warrior spears the enemy perfectly.
The warrior hits the enemy [with a thrown spear]. KGT
qachuHnIS'a'
Must I hurl a spear at you? KGT
> Perhaps {jaD} would be a better verb.
{jaD} "throw around, hurl about" does indeed work better. In fact we have an example with food in KGT:
KGT 91: Note that {Soj woD} ("He/she throws the food away"), which refers to a regrettable activity, is very different from {Soj jaD} ("He/she throws or hurls the food in the manner of a projectile"), which, under certain circumstances, is considered a reasonable pastime.
>> vabDot DaQoybe'chugh,
>
> I wouldn't use {vabDot} this way based on the {vabDot tera' Qejbogh}
> sentence. We definitely need another example or six of its use in
> context. Is it an adverbial leftover that applies to the verb? Is it
> an oddball noun that has no direct English equivalent? Is it
> something entirely unexpected?
For those of us who don't remember the Monopoly example:
Qo'noS romuluS je boSuqlaH. vabDot tera' Qejbogh
DIvI' ram boSuqlaH.
Kronos, Romulus and even the puny Federation's precious
Earth, are all up for grabs. MKE
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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