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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] To-Be-Constructions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Apr 2 13:38:51 2012

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
 <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:38:38 -0500
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There's another example of the {X 'oH pongwIj'e'} formula in the {paq'batlh=
} (p. 127):


  luqara['] 'oH pongwIj'e'



I don't remember if the SkyBox Copyright notice has been mentioned:



  Paramount Pictures malja' permey bIH Star Trek pong'e' Deghmey'e' je

  Star Trek" and related marks are trademarks of Paramount Pictures. (Copyr=
ight)




--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

From: De'vID jonpIn [mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]

loghaD:
> I prefer {X 'oH pongwIj'e'}, for much the same reasons as others have exp=
lained (my name is the topic of the discussion), but canon seems to lean in=
 the other direction.

There's one canon example with the template "X's name is Y":

  {'u' 'oH ghe'naQ pong} [sic]
  "The name of the opera is 'u'." (i.e., "The opera's name is 'u'.")

MO seems to have made a mistake in dropping the {-'e'}, but otherwise the g=
rammar is {X 'oH pong[Daj]'e'}.  There's also this from SkyBox card 27:

  {roD 'oHvaD juHqo' ponglu' neH.}
  "[Qo'noS] is usually referred to as simply "The Homeworld."



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family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>There&#8217;s another example of the {X=
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MsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-weight:bold'>&nbsp; luqara['] 'oH pongwIj'e'</span></font></b=
> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New=
"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt'>I don&#8217;t remember if the SkyBox Copyright notice has been=
 mentioned:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=
=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><i><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier;font-style:italic'>&nb=
sp; Paramount Pictures</span></font></i><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span=
 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier'> <b><span style=3D'font-wei=
ght:bold'>malja' permey bIH</span></b> <b><i><span style=3D'font-weight:bol=
d;font-style:italic'>Star Trek</span></i></b> <b><span style=3D'font-weight=
:bold'>pong'e' Deghmey'e' je<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></font></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoPlainText><i><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:Courier;font-style:italic'>&nbsp; </span></font></i><fon=
t size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Couri=
er'>Star Trek&quot; and related marks are trademarks of Paramount Pictures.=
 (Copyright)<br><br></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font=
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1.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Courie=
r New"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2=
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ily:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DConsolas><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>--<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DConsola=
s><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Vorag=
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#1f497d" face=3DConsolas><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consol=
as;color:#1F497D'>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Courier New"=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><=
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><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=
=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sa=
ns-serif"'> De'vID jonpIn [mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com] <br></span></fon=
t><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br></span></font>l=
oghaD:<br>&gt; I prefer {X 'oH pongwIj'e'}, for much the same reasons as ot=
hers have explained (my name is the topic of the discussion), but canon see=
ms to lean in the other direction. <font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'c=
olor:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p></div></div><p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>There's one canon example with the template &quot;X'=
s name is Y&quot;:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p><font size=3D3 color=3D"#=
1f497d" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F4=
97D'>&nbsp; </span></font>{'u' 'oH ghe'naQ pong} [sic]<br><font color=3D"#1=
f497d"><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp; </span></font>&quot;The name of=
 the opera is 'u'.&quot; (i.e., &quot;The opera's name is 'u'.&quot;)<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:12.0pt'>MO seems to have made a mistake in dropping the {-'e'}, but other=
wise the grammar is {X 'oH pong[Daj]'e'}.<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span styl=
e=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp; </span></font>There's also this from SkyBox card=
 27:<font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br></span></font=
><br><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp; </span></=
font>{roD 'oHvaD juHqo' ponglu' neH.}<br><font color=3D"#1f497d"><span styl=
e=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp; </span></font>&quot;[Qo'noS] is usually referred=
 to as simply &quot;The Homeworld.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p><fo=
nt size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></=
font></p></div></div></body></html>=

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