[92417] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] KLI CanonHom (was: Facebook Translation Project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr. PKT)
Sat Mar 3 05:24:07 2012
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 05:23:49 -0500
From: "Michael Roney, Jr. PKT" <nahqun@gmail.com>
To: "tlhIngan-Hol" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
In-Reply-To: <F52986192E9FE346B0B7EF3D6F98E87711C1ADEF@EXDB3.ug.kth.se>
Reply-To: "Michael Roney, Jr. PKT" <nahqun@gmail.com>
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For those that don't like the idea of leaving "Monday" as "Monday".<br><br>=
<br>I used to work for an auto repair shop.<br><br>I often had clients that=
spoke English as a second language.<br><br>They would call people on their=
cell to talk about their car and each conversation went something like thi=
s:<br><br>"Blah blah blah, catalytic converter, blah blah blah, gasket=
, blah blah=E2=80=A6"<br><br><br>The 'blah' is their native tongue that I w=
asn't able to follow.<br><br>While their own language may or may not have w=
ords for specialized car parts; it's jargon that they weren't familiar with=
and they just used the English word b/c that's what they knew.<br><br><br>=
I heard similar conversations as a credit card collector. <br><br><br>=
While I agree that it doesn't look as neat to leave untranslated bits, it's=
often the best way to go.<br><br><br>Back when I was translating the Jenol=
an Caves tour, I came across the words stalagtite and stalagmite.<br><br><b=
r>I'm sure Klingon splunkers have words for these.<br><br>Not knowing them,=
I'd be forced to use a very descriptive sentence to try and get across wha=
t the thing is.<br><br>And by the time I do that, I've probably lost and co=
nfused my listener.<br><br><span style=3D"font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san=
-serif;">I wasn't happy with it; but I left it in English because it was th=
e best way to communicate the idea at the time.<br><br><br><br>Facebook use=
rs aren't going to know where this List is.<br><br>They won't even know tha=
t is exists.<br><br>They'll flip through TKD or end up on mrklingon and the=
y won't find what they're looking for.<br><br>If you were publishing a book=
, however, and were able to include a glossary; I'd accept any of the propo=
sed words as I'd be able to look up any coinages in the back.<br><br><br>I'=
m not opposed to translating Monday; but I may be opposed to translating Mo=
nday on this project.<br><br><br>~'anan naHQun <br><br></span><span id=
=3D"signature"><div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12p=
x;color: #999999;">~Michael Roney, Jr.<br>Professional Klingon translator<b=
r>webOS developer<br><br>Sent from my 'Franken' Palm Pre 2</div></span><spa=
n style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr align=
=3D"left" style=3D"width:75%"><br><br></span><br>
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