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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wa'maH wej
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Thu Feb 23 20:28:52 2012
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmMC1=syno9LAN=5Q3cPC=xKXRPWhh46--pxjgAjBDRiWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:28:22 -0800
To: De'vID jonpIn <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>,
Klingon language email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Sent from a mobile device through a temporary connection.=20
On 2012-02-23, at 16:56, "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the end of the last 'ay', the Klingons have just left the Enterprise af=
ter a disastrous state dinner.
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> [qIrq pa']
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> KIRK: HoD QonoS. wa'Hu' ram 'entepray'Daq mebpu' chaH ghorqon Qang'e' gho=
mDaj'e' je.=20
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I would go witlh 'entepray' luSuchpu', to teduce the grammatical cplexiry.=20=
> loQ *Emily Post* wIDabe'. vutpa'vaD: pIq poH
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piq gets abused here. I saw it used instead of tugh earlier and here it shou=
ld be qep vebvaD or something. pIq means [specified time period] from now, n=
ot "fututure".=20
> not gharmeH qepDaq romuluS HIq yIjab...
> SPOCK (QumwI' ghogh): qIrq HoD. meHDaq HIghom. qIrq HoD.
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> [meHDaw paw qIrq]
> SPOCK: ah, HoD.
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If you want a Klingon vicative, try 'o. Hesitation sounds do not transfer be=
tween languages, 'especially because 'a is a word in Klingon.=20
> KIRK: nuqneH?
> SPOCK: pIH 'e' vItu'.
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I find it expects it? Can't scroll well on this but tjis is too literal for "=
i find it suspicious". vay' pIH vItu'pu'
> KIRK: *Spock*, jIDoy'qu'.
> SPOCK: *neutron* woj[1] tlhuDqu'lu' 'e' wItu'.
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I'd tend to omit the neutrons as they're only there for tecnobabble.=20
> KIRK: nuqvo'?
> SPOCK: Hujqu', wItlhuDlaw'mo'.
> KIRK: 'entepray'?
> KIRK: *Valeris*, woj yu'egh'a' De' DaSov'a'?
> VALERIS: qaH?
> KIRK: *Chekov*?
> CHEKOV: woj? {wuQ} vISov neH.
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muwuQmoHbogh wojHey neH.
> KIRK: vISovqu' je. =20
> (tlhIngan may'Duj qIp 'otlh peng)
> KIRK: qaSpu' nuq?
> SPOCK: Qang DujDaq wIbaH.[2]
> CHEKOV: peng pa', yI'ol. mabaHpu''a'?
> KIRK: *Uhura*, HaSta!
> UHURA: lu', qaH.
> VALERIS: qIpchu'.
> UHURA: 'ollu', qaH.
> (cha'logh tlhIngan may'Duj qIp 'otlh peng 'ej tlham chu'Ha'lu')
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> [1] - Alas, no word for "neutron"; it's technobabble, but a vital clue as a=
ny Trekkie knows that it signifies a cloaked ship.
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Apparently I'm not trekkie enough. Is it too blatant to say So'wI' rurbogh w=
oj?
> [2] - Someone remind me, is this how {-Daq} works with {baH}? Or does {X-=
Daq baH} mean "fire while located on X"?
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It's how bach works. I can't speak for baH.
Qapla'.=20
> > [Kirk's quarters]
> >
> > Captain's log. The Enterprise hosted Chancellor Gorkon and company to
> > dinner last night. Our manners weren't exactly Emily Post. Note to the
> > galley. Romulan ale no longer to be served at diplomatic functions.
> > SPOCK (on intercom): Captain Kirk. Will you please join me on the
> > bridge? Captain Kirk?
> > [Enterprise-A bridge]
> >
> > SPOCK: Ah, Captain.
> > KIRK: What is it?
> > SPOCK: I find this curious.
> > KIRK: Spock, I'm really tired.
> > SPOCK: We are reading an enormous amount of neutron radiation.
> > KIRK: Where?
> > SPOCK: Strangely enough it appears to be emanating from us.
> > KIRK: The Enterprise?
> > KIRK: Valeris, do you know anything about a radiation surge?
> > VALERIS: Sir?
> > KIRK: Chekov?
> > CHEKOV: Only the size of my head!
> > KIRK: I know what you mean. (on the viewscreen a photon torpedo hits
> > the Klingon battle cruiser)
> > KIRK: What's happened?
> > SPOCK: We have fired on the Chancellor's ship.
> > CHEKOV: Torpedo room! Please confirm. Have we fired?
> > KIRK: Uhura, monitor!
> > UHURA (OC): Aye sir.
> > VALERIS: Direct hit!
> > UHURA: Confirmed, sir.
> > (a second photon torpedo shoots out and the Klingon ship loses gravity)
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> De'vID
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br><br>Sent from a mobile device through a temporary connection. </div><div><br>On 2012-02-23, at 16:56, "De'vID jonpIn" <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>At the end of the last 'ay', the Klingons have just left the Enterprise after a disastrous state dinner.</p>
<p>[qIrq pa']</p>
<p>KIRK: HoD QonoS. wa'Hu' ram 'entepray'Daq mebpu' chaH ghorqon Qang'e' ghomDaj'e' je. </p></div></blockquote>I would go witlh 'entepray' luSuchpu', to teduce the grammatical cplexiry. <div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>loQ *Emily Post* wIDabe'. vutpa'vaD: pIq poH </p></div></blockquote>piq gets abused here. I saw it used instead of tugh earlier and here it should be qep vebvaD or something. pIq means [specified time period] from now, not "fututure". <br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>not gharmeH qepDaq romuluS HIq yIjab...<br>
SPOCK (QumwI' ghogh): qIrq HoD. meHDaq HIghom. qIrq HoD.</p></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<p>[meHDaw paw qIrq]<br>
SPOCK: ah, HoD.<br></p></div></blockquote>If you want a Klingon vicative, try 'o. Hesitation sounds do not transfer between languages, 'especially because 'a is a word in Klingon. <br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>
KIRK: nuqneH?<br>
SPOCK: pIH 'e' vItu'.<br></p></div></blockquote>I find it expects it? Can't scroll well on this but tjis is too literal for "i find it suspicious". vay' pIH vItu'pu'<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>
KIRK: *Spock*, jIDoy'qu'.<br>
SPOCK: *neutron* woj[1] tlhuDqu'lu' 'e' wItu'.<br></p></div></blockquote>I'd tend to omit the neutrons as they're only there for tecnobabble. <br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>
KIRK: nuqvo'?<br>
SPOCK: Hujqu', wItlhuDlaw'mo'.<br>
KIRK: 'entepray'?<br>
KIRK: *Valeris*, woj yu'egh'a' De' DaSov'a'?<br>
VALERIS: qaH?<br>
KIRK: *Chekov*?<br>
CHEKOV: woj? {wuQ} vISov neH.<br></p></div></blockquote>muwuQmoHbogh wojHey neH.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>
KIRK: vISovqu' je. <br>
(tlhIngan may'Duj qIp 'otlh peng)<br>
KIRK: qaSpu' nuq?<br>
SPOCK: Qang DujDaq wIbaH.[2]<br>
CHEKOV: peng pa', yI'ol. mabaHpu''a'?<br>
KIRK: *Uhura*, HaSta!<br>
UHURA: lu', qaH.<br>
VALERIS: qIpchu'.<br>
UHURA: 'ollu', qaH.<br>
(cha'logh tlhIngan may'Duj qIp 'otlh peng 'ej tlham chu'Ha'lu')</p>
<p>[1] - Alas, no word for "neutron"; it's technobabble, but a vital clue as any Trekkie knows that it signifies a cloaked ship.<br></p></div></blockquote>Apparently I'm not trekkie enough. Is it too blatant to say So'wI' rurbogh woj?<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>
[2] - Someone remind me, is this how {-Daq} works with {baH}? Or does {X-Daq baH} mean "fire while located on X"?</p></div></blockquote>It's how bach works. I can't speak for baH.</div><div><br></div><div>Qapla'. <br><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<p>> [Kirk's quarters]<br>
><br>
> Captain's log. The Enterprise hosted Chancellor Gorkon and company to<br>
> dinner last night. Our manners weren't exactly Emily Post. Note to the<br>
> galley. Romulan ale no longer to be served at diplomatic functions.<br>
> SPOCK (on intercom): Captain Kirk. Will you please join me on the<br>
> bridge? Captain Kirk?<br>
> [Enterprise-A bridge]<br>
><br>
> SPOCK: Ah, Captain.<br>
> KIRK: What is it?<br>
> SPOCK: I find this curious.<br>
> KIRK: Spock, I'm really tired.<br>
> SPOCK: We are reading an enormous amount of neutron radiation.<br>
> KIRK: Where?<br>
> SPOCK: Strangely enough it appears to be emanating from us.<br>
> KIRK: The Enterprise?<br>
> KIRK: Valeris, do you know anything about a radiation surge?<br>
> VALERIS: Sir?<br>
> KIRK: Chekov?<br>
> CHEKOV: Only the size of my head!<br>
> KIRK: I know what you mean. (on the viewscreen a photon torpedo hits<br>
> the Klingon battle cruiser)<br>
> KIRK: What's happened?<br>
> SPOCK: We have fired on the Chancellor's ship.<br>
> CHEKOV: Torpedo room! Please confirm. Have we fired?<br>
> KIRK: Uhura, monitor!<br>
> UHURA (OC): Aye sir.<br>
> VALERIS: Direct hit!<br>
> UHURA: Confirmed, sir.<br>
> (a second photon torpedo shoots out and the Klingon ship loses gravity)</p>
<p>--<br>
De'vID</p>
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