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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: rIQ

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Qov)
Thu Feb 2 17:02:56 2012

Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:01:20 -0800
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From: Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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pojlIj vIparHa'.

- Qov

>Here's are some example sentences for how I understand -lI' and -taH.
>
>1. veng ghoStaH ghotpu'.
>2. veng ghoSlI' ghotpu'.
>
>3. Duj tI'taH jonpIn.
>4. Duj tI'lI' jonpIn.
>
>I interpret #1 as meaning that people are always coming to the city. 
>Maybe it's New York or veng wa'DIch--a big city that always has 
>people going in and out.
>
>In interpet #2 as meaning that some people are on their way to the 
>city. They left some time ago, and they're haven't arrived yet, but 
>they will eventually.
>
>In #3, the engineer is always fixing the ship. There's always 
>something broken on the ship, so the engineer is always fixing 
>something. That's his job--it doesn't end. In #4, there is some 
>damage he is fixing and eventually he will finish. Maybe he's 
>repairing the warp core and the ship can't move until he's done.
>
>In other words, the progressive (-lI') is used for an action that 
>*unfolds* over a period of time with a definite beginning and a 
>definite end. The continuous (-taH) is used for an action that 
>happens over a period of time without a definite beginning or end.
>
>I don't want to use -lI' with rIQ because I see rIQ as a state 
>rather than a process that unfolds over time. Either you 
>are  injured or you're not. It may be temporary, ie, have a definite 
>end, but it doesn't *unfold* over time.
>
>
>I'm sure someone will dispute my interpretation, though.
>
>bI'reng
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