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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Jan 18 15:02:18 2012

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:02:02 -0600
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notlh veS... 'a tugh manotlhchoH je maH.
War is obsolete... as we are in danger of becoming. ST6
[Azetbur to her generals]

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


From: De'vID jonpIn [mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:50 PM
To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org

De'vID:
> > Dor ghu'vam'e' luDIllaHbe'bogh tlhInganpu'.
> > boQDu': *Bill*, 'ejyo' wIpujqu'moH 'e' wIchup'a'?

QeS 'utlh:
> I don't think {wIpujqu'moH} is quite right. They're not talking about
> weakening Starfleet - to me mothballing it implies putting it away more
> or less completely, because it's become obsolete. Actually, what about
> {wInotlhmoH}?

I'm not sure that {notlhmoH} has that meaning. {notlhmoH} sounds like one i=
s making something obsolete, for example, making the Enterprise A obsolete =
by developing a faster/more powerful starship, or making warfare obsolete b=
y rendering it uneconomical.  As you said, mothballing something means it's=
 already obsolete, so {notlhmoH} doesn't apply.

Maybe {notlhmo' ...} but I can't think of a word for "store, put in storage=
".

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font-weight:bold'> 'a tugh manotlhchoH je maH</span></b>.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DCourier><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Courier'>War is obsolete... as we are in d=
anger of becoming. ST6 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><f=
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p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DConsolas><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>--<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" fac=
e=3DConsolas><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F=
497D'>Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D=
2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DConsolas><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span=
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om:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> De'vID jonpIn [mailto:de.vid.jon=
pin@gmail.com] <br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed=
nesday, January 18, 2012 1:50 PM<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:=
</span></b> tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org<br></span></font><font color=3D"#1f497d"><=
span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br></span></font>De'vID:<br>&gt; &gt; Dor ghu=
'vam'e' luDIllaHbe'bogh tlhInganpu'.<br>&gt; &gt; boQDu': *Bill*, 'ejyo' wI=
pujqu'moH 'e' wIchup'a'?<o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>QeS 'utlh:<br>&gt; I don't think {w=
Ipujqu'moH} is quite right. They're not talking about<br>&gt; weakening Sta=
rfleet - to me mothballing it implies putting it away more<br>&gt; or less =
completely, because it's become obsolete. Actually, what about<br>&gt; {wIn=
otlhmoH}?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New R=
oman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I'm not sure that {notlhmoH} has tha=
t meaning. {notlhmoH} sounds like one is making something obsolete, for exa=
mple, making the Enterprise A obsolete by developing a faster/more powerful=
 starship, or making warfare obsolete by rendering it uneconomical.&nbsp; A=
s you said, mothballing something means it's already obsolete, so {notlhmoH=
} doesn't apply.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Time=
s New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Maybe {notlhmo' ...} but I ca=
n't think of a word for &quot;store, put in storage&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span=
></font></p></div></div></body></html>=

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