[91669] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wej
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Thu Jan 12 11:05:52 2012
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 02:05:33 +1000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmNsTPT2PMXek+ydzeaRbUD9Z0XpHn=4VYHxJkzxZiGfMg@mail.gmail.com>
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:
> KIRK: qatlh naDev maHtaH? =
> McCOY: chaq 'utlh patlh wISuqmo' lulop.
Perhaps just {lop} "they celebrate" rather than {lulop} "they celebrate it"?
> SCOTT: maj. qen bIQ Duj vIje'pu'.
> UHURA: potlhqu'nIS qepvam[1]. 'ampaSDaq ghojmeH qep vIche' 'e' vIruchnIS.
I actually think {potlhqu'nIS qepvam} captures the sense well here. No issue
with {-nIS} that I would raise, though my canon database is no help.
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> CHEKOV: patlh jen ghajwI'vaD neH 'oHbe''a' qepvam'e'? =
> KIRK: naDev maHchugh Hoch, nuqDaq ghaH *Sulu*'e'?
{naDev maHchugh Hoch} grates because of the overt and hence third-person no=
un
despite the first-person pronoun; it feels mismatched. Also, you're missing
{-'e'} in the first clause. Maybe replace {Hoch} with {Hoch maH'e'}?
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> McCOY: *Sulu* HoD'e'. Qu' ta'taH.
{chav} {rInmoH} ghap Daqelpu''a'?
> KIRK: nuqDaq ghaH *Spock*'e'? =
> boQDu': peghqu' ja'meH qepvam. be'pu' loDpu' je, ra'ghomquv DevwI'. =
> C in C: peleS. De'vam potlh vIja'meH ngajqu' poH. vaghmaH nem =
> tlhIngan wo' Qaw'lu'pu' net noH. De' naQ ja'meH, jatlhrup DIvI' Duy =
> le'.
maj.
> SPOCK: maj po. cha' wen tlhIngan maS pIraqSISDaq jorqu' vay' 'e' jIH =
> DIvI' Duj. tlhoy lutlhIlmo'law' 'ej yepHa'mo'law' jor.
Watch your suffix ordering: {lutlhIllaw'mo'}, {yepHa'law'mo'}.
> maS Qaw'lu'mo' lamqu'choH yuQ muDchaj 'ej HeghchoHmoH[2].
I have no problem with {HeghchoHmoH}. What do you think about {SuQchoH}
"begin to be toxic" for "pollute", instead of {lamqu'choH}?
> qaSpu'DI' vaghmaH tera' DISHeymey[3] loj yInSIpchaj.
I think {vaghmaHHey} is okay, though I'd be tempted just to say {vaghmaH
tera' DISmey} and forget the approximation altogether.
> 'Iqmo' Huch'e' poQbogh QI',
I'd say {QI'chaj}, just to be clear whose military's being talked about.
> yapbe' tlhIngan Huch jo 'ej lotvam luma'ruplaHbe'[4].
Agreed, I'm not sure {ma'} is quite the right word... How about {jey}?
I like what you've done with {-ruplaHbe'} here, by the way.
> wen mutungHa'mo' vulqangan Duy'a',
{wa'wen}, with or without a space.
> maja'chuq jIH ghorqan[5] je.
I don't think we have it in canon, but for my part, since Gorkon is
played by a speaker of English English I'm going to plead for {ghorqon}
here, which is also the form used in the Klingon Hamlet.
> tlhIngan yejquv Qang ghaH. SIbI' maSutlhchoH 'e' chup. =
> CARTWRIGHT: nuq wISutlh? =
maj.
QeS 'utlh
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