[91653] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh wa'maH jav:
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ghunchu'wI' 'utlh)
Tue Jan 10 16:35:44 2012
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20120102125416.04542228@flyingstart.ca>
From: "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:33:50 -0500
To: Klingon language email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> =93ngoq Dalo'nISchugh net chaw'."
I had to read this several times before I understood that the object
of {net} was an unstated {Dalo'}. I think it would be fine without the
{-nISchugh}.
> "labbeHDI' qawHaqDaq yIpol..."
labbeHlaH'a' jabbI'ID? I have no problem with {-beH}, but I don't
think {lab} works this way. Maybe {naQDI'} instead, but it's not quite
right. I see in the footnotes that you had the same reservations.
> "vay' pav DalabnIS 'e' pIH ra'wI'ma'."
pIHba' ra'wI'.
> batlh Heghpu' 'e' 'olpu' Qel je.
It's weird that I trip over this so strongly when I read it. It's not
*that* big a deal to break the "no aspect suffix on the second verb in
a SAO" rule, is it? I'd finesse it as {HeghDaj batlh 'olpu' je Qel}.
> vanmeH jatlh =93wo' wItoy'.=94 mu'tlheghvetlh maSlaw'
> qImyal vaj jabbI'ID jIHDI' chaq belmoH.
chIch vanwI'vam wIv vajar chaq 'e' tlhoj qImyal. bochmoHwI' par'a'?
> pa' cha'vatlh tlhInganpu' lutu'lu'...
It was only on my second pass through this that the lack of
approximation was apparent. Picking a handy number works fine.
> pa'Daq cha'maH cha' raS tIq tu'lu'...
lutu'lu'
I'm going to feel very silly if we ever find that {lu-} is *supposed*
to be left off in sentences like this.
> ...'oHDaq ratlhmo' ghISDenHey ghaytan lung Segh 'oH.
Daj. ghISDen vIleghchugh jIH, ghotI''e' vImumrup.
> =93Dujvetlh chu' DaparHa''a'?=94 jatlh vay'. jang Hota'ro' 'ach QoylaHbe'=
vajar.
va. vajar DeS tI'ta' Duj Qel. DaH vajar teS'e' tI'nISbej vay.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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