daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ghunchu'wI' 'utlh)
Wed Jan 4 16:51:02 2012
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20111226103753.046b6918@flyingstart.ca>
From: "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:50:25 -0500
To: tlhIngan Hol email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> ngo' Duj 'ach veQ 'oHbe'bej.
Do' veQDuj 'oHbe' veS'e'.
> =93nuqDaq DaghoS, HoD?=94
'utbe' <-Daq> qar'a'? I'm getting a "from whence" vibe here.
> chobmeyDaq chaq vaghmaH nuv juS vajar DorwI' je.
The first time I read this it seemed fine. On my second pass, looking
for things to comment on, I found one. If I analyze the grammar
carefully, I think the sentence is saying that maybe they passed fifty
people, and maybe they didn't pass those fifty people. This is a weak
spot in my understanding of Klingon. Keeping in mind the observation
that "[Klingons] are never approximate," it could be a weak spot in
Klingon itself.
Would anyone like to debate the merits of putting {-Hey} on a number?
> QIj vajar, jatlh =93DeghwI'wI' Darur.=94
>
> jatlh be', =93toH Hota'ro' ra'wI' SoH, vajar HoD, qar'a'?=94
toH, Hota'ro' qawchu' je be'vam.
jIQubchoH. rurqu', qatlh 'e' Del qonwI'? pIj rambe' ramlaw'bogh De'.
> raS DungDaq tIHmey luHotlhlu'taHmo' chenlaw' Duj ngeb.
Neither "scan" nor "project" fits right with {tIHmey} as the object,
at least in my mind. I'd be okay with the beams *doing* the
scanning/projecting.
> vagh 'uj Saw', wa'maH vagh 'uj 'ab, 'ej jav 'uj juch HanDogh joj.
Dugh 'oSbe''a'? cha' HanDogh cha''a'?
> chaq SomrawDu' neH ghaq.
jIHvaD Qatlh mu'tlheghvam mach, mu' <ghaq> vIghovbe'mo'. mu'ghom vIlo'DI' v=
Iqaw.
> qay'qu'law' peQchem lIngwI' ngaDmoHwI'.
qaStaHvIS poH nI' qay'taH.
> Qu'Daj lubuSbogh jonwI' 'Il'e' ghov.
Qu' lubuSchugh chaH'e', ghaytan Qu'_chaj_ 'oH.
> [53] tIqqu'choH 'ay'meywIj. bepchugh vay' HISovmoH.
jIbepbe' jIH.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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