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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Jan 3 14:53:49 2012

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:53:19 -0600
In-Reply-To: <CAFgJOr3yTGJnZEPW16zOiYhjjBMB31m5i685nnTf+VU1ev7_zA@mail.gmail.com>
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IIRC many of the Trek novels refer to a "sonic shower" - developed presumab=
ly to conserve potable water on long voyages.  In fact, I thinks this was a=
lso a way to wash one's uniform (while wearing it even?) in the pre-replica=
tor era.


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

From: Brent Kesler [mailto:brent.of.all.people@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:38 PM
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'maH vagh: <butlh>

Aren't saunas dry heat? You sweat out the dirt then scrap it off. Seems ver=
y Klingon.

bI'reng

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:28 PM, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh <qunchuy@alcaco.net<mailt=
o:qunchuy@alcaco.net>> wrote:
On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Qov <robyn@flyingstart.ca<mailto:robyn@flyings=
tart.ca>> wrote:
Klingons do not engage in swimming or bathing. Either all Klingons are perp=
etually filthy, as admittedly many on the shows appear to be, or they have =
some other method of performing basic hygiene. Any suggestions?

Showers are not like swimming. Perhaps not the full-body style, maybe just =
a handheld sprayer. And it might include an abrasive component in the manne=
r of sandblasting rather than a simple detergent, though that's probably a =
bit far-fetched.

John Ford's Klingons luxuriated in something akin to a sauna. Hot and steam=
y works to get clean as well as dirty.

-- ghunchu'wI'

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
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-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brent Kesler [mailto:brent.of.all.people@gm=
ail.com] <br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, =
January 03, 2012 1:38 PM<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/b> tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s=
pan></b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'maH vagh: &lt;butlh&gt;<o:=
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n"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aren't saunas dry heat? You sweat out t=
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<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span sty=
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><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:28 PM, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh &lt=
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pan></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Klingons do not engage in swimming or bat=
hing. Either all Klingons are perpetually filthy, as admittedly many on the=
 shows appear to be, or they have some other method of performing basic hyg=
iene. Any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><fo=
nt size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 fac=
e=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Showers are not like=
 swimming. Perhaps not the full-body style, maybe just a handheld sprayer. =
And it might include an abrasive component in the manner of sandblasting ra=
ther than a simple detergent, though that's probably a bit far-fetched.<br>=
<br>John Ford's Klingons luxuriated in something akin to a sauna. Hot and s=
teamy works to get clean as well as dirty.<font color=3D"#888888"><span sty=
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